Tested: Escort RedLine vs. Valentine One

[Matt]

If you read the post, it looks like the Redline is the choice for off axis. V1 and Redline tie for range. I/O = tie, QT = V1 is the king.

I love V1 Zombies they can't accept that there is a detector that has a longer range than the V1. Face it if you look at the bar graphs in the review the redline has longer range. ( review may be flawed but that is another story )I have yet to hear anybody claim the V1 is a longer range detector than the redline other than the second reply in this thread. Even radarroy tested this across many miles in road trips and said the Redline although not always a huge difference alearted 80 percent of the time sooner than the V1.

Is the V1 better in Q/T YES.. I/O probably, Laser for sure! but range sorry man that is a no.

The fact that many so called zombies use a 9500ci as well as their V1 says it all ... if the V1 was "the greatest" then they would not need an Escort backing it up.

Features get the short shrift by zombies too. Escorts features are superior to the V1's. AutoMute is one of the best things ever added to a radar detector for example. Living without it is pure hatred. I miss the arrows, but I HATED not having AutoMute.

So an Escort misses a Q/T shot at your car ... V1 alerts ... you get a ticket either way. Q/T is only going to save you if you happen to pick up a shot up the road aimed at someone else, same as I/O. I'd wager Q/T saves are the lowest percentage of radar saves out there, V1 or not ... and I guarantee range saves will easily outrank Q/T saves. That said, it is something Escort needs to address.

x2. I run Redline in the work truck, STI-R / 9500ix in personal. I am a Belscort believer. In my reply it says "if you read the post"

[bigalinwv]

If you read the post, it looks like the Redline is the choice for off axis. V1 and Redline tie for range. I/O = tie, QT = V1 is the king.

I love V1 Zombies they can't accept that there is a detector that has a longer range than the V1. Face it if you look at the bar graphs in the review the redline has longer range. ( review may be flawed but that is another story )I have yet to hear anybody claim the V1 is a longer range detector than the redline other than the second reply in this thread. Even radarroy tested this across many miles in road trips and said the Redline although not always a huge difference alearted 80 percent of the time sooner than the V1.

Is the V1 better in Q/T YES.. I/O probably, Laser for sure! but range sorry man that is a no.

The fact that many so called zombies use a 9500ci as well as their V1 says it all ... if the V1 was "the greatest" then they would not need an Escort backing it up.

Features get the short shrift by zombies too. Escorts features are superior to the V1's. AutoMute is one of the best things ever added to a radar detector for example. Living without it is pure hatred. I miss the arrows, but I HATED not having AutoMute.

So an Escort misses a Q/T shot at your car ... V1 alerts ... you get a ticket either way. Q/T is only going to save you if you happen to pick up a shot up the road aimed at someone else, same as I/O. I'd wager Q/T saves are the lowest percentage of radar saves out there, V1 or not ... and I guarantee range saves will easily outrank Q/T saves. That said, it is something Escort needs to address.

Amen to that, with regard to features and GUI, there's no contest, Belscort all the way.

In reality, arrows or no arrows, we all slow down for alerts. The bogey counter is not as informational as the Expert Meter.

[dcdave78]

If you read the post, it looks like the Redline is the choice for off axis. V1 and Redline tie for range. I/O = tie, QT = V1 is the king.

I love V1 Zombies they can't accept that there is a detector that has a longer range than the V1. Face it if you look at the bar graphs in the review the redline has longer range. ( review may be flawed but that is another story )I have yet to hear anybody claim the V1 is a longer range detector than the redline other than the second reply in this thread. Even radarroy tested this across many miles in road trips and said the Redline although not always a huge difference alearted 80 percent of the time sooner than the V1.

Is the V1 better in Q/T YES.. I/O probably, Laser for sure! but range sorry man that is a no.

The fact that many so called zombies use a 9500ci as well as their V1 says it all ... if the V1 was "the greatest" then they would not need an Escort backing it up.

Features get the short shrift by zombies too. Escorts features are superior to the V1's. AutoMute is one of the best things ever added to a radar detector for example. Living without it is pure hatred. I miss the arrows, but I HATED not having AutoMute.

So an Escort misses a Q/T shot at your car ... V1 alerts ... you get a ticket either way. Q/T is only going to save you if you happen to pick up a shot up the road aimed at someone else, same as I/O. I'd wager Q/T saves are the lowest percentage of radar saves out there, V1 or not ... and I guarantee range saves will easily outrank Q/T saves. That said, it is something Escort needs to address.

x2. I run Redline in the work truck, STI-R / 9500ix in personal. I am a Belscort believer. In my reply it says "if you read the post"

Sorry I stand corrected you are right

[<<JAZZY>>]

In reality, arrows or no arrows, we all slow down for alerts. The bogey counter is not as informational as the Expert Meter.

Yes, we all slow down but the arrows allow you to speed up if the cop has already passed, or is real far behind you which a Belscort will not let you know. The Expert Meter is better than the bogey counter?

If I pull up to a place with 8 door openers, the V1 will give me that number or maybe 7 occasionally. The Expert Meter will tell me there are 2 K band door openers if I am lucky because that is the maximum it can display. That doesn't seem better to me.

But wait, the Expert Meter can alert to a maximum of 4 X band sources at one time. I don't care because I have X band turned off on the V1. The V1 can flash an arrow at the worst threat if there are multiple threats and the Expert Meter can show me the world's smallest display of tiny dots that can only be viewed through squinting eyes. I have used both a V1 bogey counter and Expert Meter and there is no comparison...the V1 is way better.

The first thing I did when I bought my refurb 8500 was to see if I liked the Expert Meter and it was a complete joke. I changed it to Spec Display because it was more interesting to look at but still not as useful as the V1's display.

V1 Display:

Can display up to nine sources of radar regardless of band

Can show me which direction the threats are coming from and flash an arrow at the worst threat

Nice big display with easy to see arrows and number of threats





Expert Meter:

Can only display eight sources of radar (4 X band, 2 K band, 2 Ka band)

Can't tell me the direction of the radar or the worst threat

Small hard to read display with no arrows and no number of threats

[CJR238]

I cant really say much, i only bought the V1 for arrow entertainment purposes.

Spec mode just makes me mad, its a great feature but it doesn't let me know signal strength visually.

Expert mode on the other hand is pretty perfect. When encountering 2 sources it lets you know, but when i am in false chaos areas it give a maximum of 2.

The V1's multiple bogies and arrows pointing everywhere in dense false area only forces me to ignore it more often. But it does give me all the information i could ever need if i wanted it.

I think it comes down to do you want all the information possible (V1) or do you just want to know the important stuff (Belscort)

After using the V1 and 9500ci together i find the V1 a great supporting unit to use if more information is required, confirmation of passing the threat, obvious bogie tone for additional threats.

My only real complaint is when I use spec mode on the 9500ci doesn't give signal strength, and on the V1 i have no idea what band its alerting to. By using them both it solves my problem.

[Divewjason]

Ok, why are we starting a brand war again? Here are some highlights for everyone to go over and then we can all die happy with our chosen radar detectors.

1. The V1 is the only one with arrows and is the king of detecting quick bursts of instant on.

2. Escort/Belltronics is the only manufacturer in the US that has a detector that is undetectable by Spectre and their platform provides the best warning against C/O and off axis radar.

3. Whistlers are capable of detecting C/O I never had a close call with C/O on my 695 unless it was forward facing, and I'm not a Whistler Zombie. See my signature.

/endargument

Let's all just be happy with our chosen detectors, there is a reason why we decided on the detectors we decided on whether it be preference or our area. kthxbai.

[Freebird]

It would be really nice if the V1 would flash the spec in the bogey counter a second after alerting like it flashes the firmware in programming mode.

At alert it would flash 1 bogey, then 3-3-.-8 a few seconds then return back to the bogey number.

[Idontgo55]

It would be really nice if the V1 would flash the spec in the bogey counter a second after alerting like it flashes the firmware in programming mode.

At alert it would flash 1 bogey, then 3-3-.-8 a few seconds then return back to the bogey number.

that would cost money since V1 can't even afford or can just don't want to put in a better phone system why would they invest much more? Seems like v1 pretty much is at the end of the road!!! or it could be them milking each 400 dollar sucker they get right now

[bigalinwv]

In reality, arrows or no arrows, we all slow down for alerts. The bogey counter is not as informational as the Expert Meter.

Yes, we all slow down but the arrows allow you to speed up if the cop has already passed, or is real far behind you which a Belscort will not let you know. The Expert Meter is better than the bogey counter?

If I pull up to a place with 8 door openers, the V1 will give me that number or maybe 7 occasionally. The Expert Meter will tell me there are 2 K band door openers if I am lucky because that is the maximum it can display. That doesn't seem better to me.

But wait, the Expert Meter can alert to a maximum of 4 X band sources at one time. I don't care because I have X band turned off on the V1. The V1 can flash an arrow at the worst threat if there are multiple threats and the Expert Meter can show me the world's smallest display of tiny dots that can only be viewed through squinting eyes. I have used both a V1 bogey counter and Expert Meter and there is no comparison...the V1 is way better.

The first thing I did when I bought my refurb 8500 was to see if I liked the Expert Meter and it was a complete joke. I changed it to Spec Display because it was more interesting to look at but still not as useful as the V1's display.

V1 Display:

Can display up to nine sources of radar regardless of band

Can show me which direction the threats are coming from and flash an arrow at the worst threat

Nice big display with easy to see arrows and number of threats





Expert Meter:

Can only display eight sources of radar (4 X band, 2 K band, 2 Ka band)

Can't tell me the direction of the radar or the worst threat

Small hard to read display with no arrows and no number of threats

1. Come on, any RD user with any years of experience can tell whether the cop just passed, be for real.

2. You also forgot to mention all arrows lit up, different ones flashing at different times, the X,K,Ka band indicators randomly flashing. Looks like a disco!!!!

Definitely NOT more information, only a true zombie would claim that.

I OWN a V1.8, and can at least be objective about it.

[Freebird]

The arrows are most useful to me when the alert is only a few beeps every 30 seconds and it is rear arrow or front arrow. With other detectors I am looking all around for the source, with the V1 it identifies the source behind you or in front of you taking the guesswork away.