Call Me Hard Headed...

**happya$$** · 05-28-2005, 04:55 AM

Again keep in mind that the Mimic is not even released yet so Chris might have a souped up version (not that Chris will know that). Also what is the longevity of the Mimic. Is it as rock solid as the Blinder? I am not jumping on anyones bandwagon until I see a matured product with all of the bugs worked out first

**nvr2fast** · 05-28-2005, 05:41 AM

Indeed, maybe the MIMIC will blow it's LEDs after 3 or 6 months of usage, for all we know.

How come the LIDATEK is so much more expensive than the rest? Do they have some unusual hardware that the the other jammers do not have, or is it simply higher pricing? What I mean is, has anyone done any testing against it, to see if the 1/3 - 2/3 price increase is worth it?

**Veil Guy** · 05-28-2005, 05:58 AM

happya$$,

You may be correct. In addition, I don't believe the mimic videos, as yet, showed the punch through tendencies when the headlight is targeted. Shooting directly at a transponder is not representative of the real-world at all.

If additional videos are made, they should be filmed in a way to demonstrate the performance when the approaching vehicle is targeted at both the plate area and the light in separate runs to be thorough.

I wouldn't suggest getting too carried away about a product that hasn't even been shipping yet, hasn't had a test (as yet) published by either SML and/or Radartest, hasn't been field tested over time to demonstrate its durability, reliability, its component quality, and its ability to accurately detect incoming laser without an excessive tendency to false.

Finally, questions have been raised here with respect to possible infringement issues.

Some definitive results should be coming in the near future. In the meantime, I would suggest going slowly and sticking with something that has been proven [over time.]

That list: Blinder, Escort(Bel), and Lidatek.

VG 8)

**happya$$** · 05-28-2005, 07:59 AM

The Lidatek is more expensive because it uses Laser Diodes instead of leads. That technology is more expensive but more succeptible to burn outs

**Crash** · 05-28-2005, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by nvr2fast

Indeed, maybe the MIMIC will blow it's LEDs after 3 or 6 months of usage, for all we know.

How come the LIDATEK is so much more expensive than the rest? Do they have some unusual hardware that the the other jammers do not have, or is it simply higher pricing? What I mean is, has anyone done any testing against it, to see if the 1/3 - 2/3 price increase is worth it?

The Lidatek uses a laser gun diode, that´s why the price is higher.

**Shooter** · 05-28-2005, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by happya$$

Again keep in mind that the Mimic is not even released yet so Chris might have a souped up version (not that Chris will know that). Also what is the longevity of the Mimic. Is it as rock solid as the Blinder? I am not jumping on anyones bandwagon until I see a matured product with all of the bugs worked out first

Originally Posted by The Veil Guy

I don't believe the mimic videos, as yet, showed the punch through tendencies when the headlight is targeted. Shooting directly at a transponder is not representative of the real-world at all.

Well, both of you are correct. Anytime a new product comes out there is always some question as to wheather or not it will perform as advertised and have a useful service life. Blinder was in the same boat when they first appeared on the market. I guess that we will have to wait until July or Aug to find out how well Mimic will do in El Paso at the SML field trials if they participate. As for Chris's video I will let Chris speak for himself. But yes the lic. plate was targeted and there was a transponder on either side of the plate. I also saw the other videos where the Blinder was punched through in excess of 900 to 1000 feet. So the only conclusion I can draw right now is I invested $245.00 in a new product whose production cost is probably within a few dollars of the Blinders and neither the Blinder or the Mimic probablly cost more than $50.00 to produce.

The only real proven product here is VEIL. If you run a Blinder, Mimic or even a Lidatek without VEIL your taking a chance (JMHO).

**crazyVOLVOrob** · 05-28-2005, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by happya$$

Again keep in mind that the Mimic is not even released yet so Chris might have a souped up version (not that Chris will know that). Also what is the longevity of the Mimic. Is it as rock solid as the Blinder? I am not jumping on anyones bandwagon until I see a matured product with all of the bugs worked out first

happy the mimc has been released and chris has stated that he recieved the consumer verision. But the product is still new and durability needs to be tested

Bob for headlight punch through thats where VEIL comes in handy

**talo** · 05-28-2005, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by happya$$

The Lidatek is more expensive because it uses Laser Diodes instead of leads. That technology is more expensive but more succeptible to burn outs

Can you point to specific reports of the LE30 burning out? Done a bit of research on this and have yet to find anythong but a game of telephone going on for this.

**crazyVOLVOrob** · 05-28-2005, 08:48 PM

It has been a problem with current and Lidatek models as well as older lidatek models

your best bet would be to try the bmw M5 forum alot of those guys have lidatek which they got from a group buy.

Search Yahoo and you will be bound to come up wih some reports of that

**drb** · 06-12-2005, 10:08 PM

OK, here's a question about the Lidatek, as it uses laser diodes. If the laser diodes in the Lidatek work like any other laser, their beam width at the typical cop-to-victim range is likely to be about the same as the police laser, which we generally have heard to be about 18".

Does that imply that the Lidatek head might work wonderfully if they happen to be exactly aimed at the LEO's gun, but not at all if they are aimed a couple of feet off?