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    Default What would be good for the rear.

    I'm thinking maybe a dual LPP? What's everyone elses oppions?

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    Default Re: What would be good for the rear.

    Quote Originally Posted by dodgesrt4driver
    I'm thinking maybe a dual LPP? What's everyone elses oppions?
    get LPP dual front and back 8)

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    To the OP -

    I'd assume that your vehicle is an SRT4?

    In this case, a dual-head LPP, AL, or LI system will practically insure rear JFG performance.

    For such a small vehicle, even a centralized single-head should offer "good enough" center-mass protection (although PTs will occur at the outer edges of the tail-lights). In this case, if-possible (remembering that tail-light tints/"smoking" can be frowned-upon or even illegal), "dressing" your tail-lights can help cut down on such PTs.

    Still....

    Honestly, if rear-enforcement is a worry, I'd do dual. IMveryHO, it's better to suffer the financial drain early, in-exchange for reliable protection, rather than suffer the consequences, later.

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    From the rear? That's what she said....

    Sorry, I couldn't resist..... Seriously, though, 1 diode jammer head (AL, LPP) in the rear (or 2 of the LED jammers, Blinder, etc.) should suffice. Rear laser encounters are rare, depending where you live, but they can save your a$$ in a pinch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twentyseventy
    Seriously, though, 1 diode jammer head (AL, LPP) in the rear (or 2 of the LED jammers, Blinder, etc.) should suffice. Rear laser encounters are rare, depending where you live, but they can save your a$$ in a pinch.
    Be careful about this, bruddah......

    It seems that just about all of the true-independent hobbyist testing have pointed to the need for AT LEAST two laser-diode based heads as being required - even on a smaller/favorable profile vehicle - for effective "JFG" protection.

    Center-mass/plate mounts of a single rear diode head, although proven effective for center-mass/plate shots, have typically seen rather disappointing PTs when, particularly, undressed tail-lights, or even the larger span of trunk/deck space of larger vehicles (and by this, I mean common "mid-size" family sedans) have been "panned" - either purposefully, or even just accidentally (i.e. unsteady shot).

    For even larger vehicles - such as mid-size and up SUVs - or vehicles with a more unfavorable rear profile, there's been documented need of three, or even four, laser-diode based heads, in order to prevent even rather disappointing, "instataneous" PTs.

    And I'd honestly totally forget about using LED-based jammers fort this scenario.

    Rear protection is truly very difficult to achieve.

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    For one of the tests on my BMW we taped a LI head to the top of the trunk and it was able to jam the gun unless you aimed for the far ends of the tail lights.. So possibly 1 LI just below the license plate would be good, but to ensure full JTG I would put in 1. But assuming most cops will shoot the license plate 1 LI would be fine and give you time to slow down.

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    ^ That's the problem - it's that little "unless" that's got me worried.

    Don't get me wrong - I agree. The vast majority of such enforcement scenarios still focuses solely on rear center-mass or rear-plate, so such a single rear-diode setup *should* allow the individual to slow-to-reasonable/PSL.

    However, given the decidedly insidious nature of rear-enforcement as well as the comparatively much less favorable vehicle/hardpoint profile from that aspect, I believe strongly in erring on the side of caution.

    This is additionally complicated by the fact that "tactical disengagement" is harder to manage, when it comes to rear-enforcement scenarios. Tripping-off the brake-lights, as well as significant nose-dive of the vehicle are significant tells - the need to cruise-down/downshift-to-slow requires more time.

    I know, I know. I'm rather pessimistic when it comes to this aspect of the game. ops:

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSi+WRX

    This is additionally complicated by the fact that "tactical disengagement" is harder to manage, when it comes to rear-enforcement scenarios. Tripping-off the brake-lights, as well as significant nose-dive of the vehicle are significant tells - the need to cruise-down/downshift-to-slow requires more time.

    I know, I know. I'm rather pessimistic when it comes to this aspect of the game. ops:
    not without good reason though. rear jamming is a lot riskier IMO.

    as you said there are a lot more tell tale signs that will give you away and the initial shot will be nearer than a frontal attack would be also.

    i would think its a lot harder for a pig to notice that you are braking when he is shooting at your front end. no brake lights can be seen and he will be further away so it should be harder to see that you are slowing down if you do it right

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    Sorry to hijack this thread, but any opinions about this rear single LI head install? As inspired by another mini cooper owner's install, I just drilled into the license plate to mount the LI regular head. It's off center so I can access the hatch release button. Also, I have a dremeled thick black license plate frame ready when I get a working head back from Elvis. Notice the overhang of the chrome handle. I might have problems with a slim head. Maybe I could mount it along the bottom of the plate, but that would seem more visible.




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    On a vehicle that small, I'd think that you'd be fine as-is.

    Dunno.... Any chance to test, with someone in your area?

 

 

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