Ticket For Jamming?

[Darkflame]

even if it's legal, they can still charge you with interference with police duties

They can try...The law regarding interference with police duties is so vaguely described that they can arrest you if they were walking down the street on patrol and you didn't move aside to let them continue walking in a straight line.

I've been pulled over for having a jammer before. The officer thought they were illegal until I challenged it.

The best way to fight a ticket is to take the time to learn the laws regarding the use of a vehicle on public roads, laser jammers, speeding, jay walking etc..There are ALOT of laws out there. Cops don't know every single law just as you don't. Sometimes they think they know something and will pull you over for it then during the process of researching the law find out there is none then just use that opportunity to hassle another ticket out of you.

Some cops will admit they were wrong and appologize for your time and let you be.

In my instance I had an officer pull me over because I had a jammer. First thing he said was "you know those are illegal right?" and I said no they're not. Then we argued a little bit. Then he ended up calling home base and checking up on it. Then once he came back it was no longer the jammer he was concerned about. It was everything else about my bike he could try to find to write me a ticket.

Here's how I see it....A jammer when used properly will protect you from tickets. If you like to leave yours on all the time. You're gonna bring attention to yourself. Make sure you know your laws. You don't want to be pulled for having a jammer and then get a ticket for having open alcoholic beverages in your front cab or hid retrofitted lights which are not DOT approved or have your car floating an inch and a half off of the ground...Chances are the officer wasn't suspsecting these things when he pulled you over, but now he has an reason to look for these things because you trumped him on his original ticket.

I took the time to learn the laws regarding everything about my bike, me and the public roads I drive on. I always enjoy it when officers pull me over for anything really...Jamming, speeding etc...Pull me over, i'd love to chat

Also having a hidden recording device always helps too. It's is an officers primary responsibility to serve and protect. Unless you get aggressive first, there is no excuse for an officer to get in your face, even if you were speeding, jamming etc..I have had officers demeanor change once they realized I was recording the incident. It helps to keep their butts in check too.

[RoadWarrior86]

Thats the case for IL, and if/when they do find them, it's a $50 fine.

thats all rebince 50 dollars here in IL for police finding you laser jammer. Man they should just make it legal in IL then. THat is nothing I taught it would me more.

[rsatmans]

It is easy for a cop to pull you over and give you a ticket for visual estimate also he could fibb and say he verified it with his lidar gun. Remember a cop could also be untruthful in court and then it's your word against theirs in the American justice system the integrity of the court relies on police testimony. That is why it is prudent for all jammer users to not JTG and instead turn it off once down to speed.

[erickonphoenix]

thats all rebince 50 dollars here in IL for police finding you laser jammer. Man they should just make it legal in IL then. THat is nothing I taught it would me more.

I wonder how many jammer violations they get every year?

This is strictly scuttlebutt testimony but HPDJim believes as most HPD does that jammers are usually only found on very expensive sportscars and superbikes. So they don't usually look anywhere else if at all. Since HPDJim said. "They also don't work at all"

It's also HPDJims belief that all of my jams caught on vid are probably more a combination of vehicle type and operator error than any active countermeasure.

[djrams80]

I wonder how many jammer violations they get every year?

This is strictly scuttlebutt testimony but HPDJim believes as most HPD does that jammers are usually only found on very expensive sportscars and superbikes. So they don't usually look anywhere else if at all. Since HPDJim said. "They also don't work at all"

It's also HPDJims belief that all of my jams caught on vid are probably more a combination of vehicle type and operator error than any active countermeasure.

I love LEOs like HPDJim!

[SuperSalad]

I wonder how many jammer violations they get every year?

This is strictly scuttlebutt testimony but HPDJim believes as most HPD does that jammers are usually only found on very expensive sportscars and superbikes. So they don't usually look anywhere else if at all. Since HPDJim said. "They also don't work at all"

It's also HPDJims belief that all of my jams caught on vid are probably more a combination of vehicle type and operator error than any active countermeasure.

I always love to laugh at the ignorant police officers that think their radar and LIDAR guns are completely infallible.

But I just once want to JTG a LEO to see the look on his face

[djrams80]

But I just once want to JTG a LEO to see the look on his face

I don't. I just want them to leave me alone and I'm happy.

[Lucky225]

So lets say a cop is shooting his laser gun at cars getting quick reads on all of them, then he comes across a certain car....aims, fires, and nothing. He keeps the laser pointed at the car trying both headlights and then the licence plate....still, nothing. Can this cop pull over this car for having probable cause that the driver is using an illegal laser jammer?

Depends on your State. In California you only need a REASONABLE SUSPICION to pull someone over. I.E. you can have a front license plate mounted on the front of your vehicle, but if it's dark out and the cop JUST DID NOT see it, or if you're an out of state visitor with no front plate, the officer can pull you over and detain you until he realizes the original reason for the stop has been resolved, unless before he realizes the reason for the stop is resolved, he finds something else out of order, such as the smell of alcohol on your breath, a warrant comes back from dispatch before the original reason for the stop is resolved, etc...

In any event, not getting a reading on laser MAY be reasonable suspicion to pull you over for having a jammer.

However, a jammer is a Class 1A Division 12 infraction, and should only carry an equipment violation fix-it ticket with 0 points on your license.

[erickonphoenix]

I love LEOs like HPDJim!

so do I but he's about to retire.

[Darkflame]

Yes an officer can pull you over for anything really. They can say you were doing this and that.

This is why I recommend having video surveillance running in your vehicle/bike.

Before I got my jammer, I was on the freeway, a R1 blew right by me, I took chase and around the bend the R1 floored it. Leo tagged him and he fled like the bike was stolen. Officer pulled me over because I slowed down. 5 seconds had gone by he flagged me to pull over...

Said I was doing 107mph @ 338 feet. I argued with him saying he didn't tag m and that he tagged the r1.

He said it was me blah blah blah.

Took it to court. Played back the video and you can see the run gunning it. I'm coming around the bend going and the officer flags me over.

He even told the judge he was sure I was the right bike. Once the video played and he saw the R1 go around the corner, then gun it. I come around the corner and the officer is running to his bike, his laser isn't even on me when my bike comes into his field of view. he just looks at me and flags me down. He looked at the officer with this look like "The video says otherwise but are you sure you got the right person?" LOL...

The Prosecutor had a dumbfounded look on his face like he was curious to see what the officer would say.

The cop still said yes. After determining it would not have been probable for me to be going 107mph 338 feet away, and pulling over to his location about 6 seconds later the judge said something like "Based on the video either the lidar device reported an incorrect reading, or you made an error in judgment when determining the vehicle in question." Then asked the officer and the prosecutor if they wanted to challenge the video.

They said no then he said I'm surprised you even bothered to flag this bike down when you clearly saw the other bike trying to run from you but based on what the video presented, This case is dismissed with prejudice".

Then the judge asked if he could have the clerk make a copy of the video and wanted to have a word with the prosecutor and officer.

LOL!