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  1. #1
    Good Citizen
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    Cool You decide......

    To LS & Veil or just LS?

    Testing background:
    1. Virgin Plates direct from DMV
    2. Shot in a dark room, no ambient light
    3. Shot with a Sony DCRTRV33 night camera
    4. One Laser Shield with Veil G4 - single coat, one without side by side
    Cure time on Veil 29 hours in controlled conditions - 78* 30% Humidity
    Second Laser shield straight from package, both attached via paper clip

    You decide, GigEm!.....


    Last edited by Aggie; 09-10-2008 at 09:05 PM.

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    Yoda of Radar
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    Default Re: You decide......

    Sweet. Got a pic without IR? Just curious as to how dark a single layer of Veil makes the LS. Too dark = cop hassle.

    "Buy the BEST and screw the rest." - fire65

    "im intrested to see how well you do.i never seen a car JTG before would be a first for me.." - radarrob

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    Default Re: You decide......

    Very interesting. Thank you for taking the time and describing the conditions.

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    Default Re: You decide......

    nice, I'd like to see a Bell Clear Cover($5 @ wally world) with veil as well for comparison, but that's for another day I guess

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    Default Re: You decide......

    Nice!!!!

    Thanks!

    I think I might just purchase another set of LaserShields, and give VEIL'ing them a try, to see if the aesthetics are passable (enforcement-speaking).

    Thanks again!

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    Speed Demon
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    Default Re: You decide......

    Everything is relative and you have to balance everything with risk of being pulled over.

    Give that the laser shield gets rid of 95% IR compared to 97% IR with laser shield plus veil. Why bother, given that in VISIBLE light (which you didn't show) the laser shield probable drops 40% and may just cause you grief. Even a bare laser shield is risky and easy to explain your way out of it if you did get pulled over. Why not just put black cardboard over it and shoot for 100%. The point is, there is a tradeoff point of too obvious vs good enough protection.

    Be nice to show for reference what no shield looks like (you get some idea with the holes in the laser shield) and what they look like in daylight.

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    Default Re: You decide......

    Conditions for "Daylight shots

    1. Attached via paper clip so they are not quite snug against the plate. The letters are MUCH clearer when "snugged" against the plate. I think a plain Laser Shield would pass the muster at speed and really only becomes obvious at 30'.
    2. Used the same camera to keep quality/aspect/Light compensation as close as possible. Sony DCRTRV33
    3. Picture inside was taken using 3 overhead 60 watt bulbs
    4. Outside picture was taken in partly cloudy sky. Morning sun from the behind and right of the camera. Sorry I had to dodge some clouds - darn hurricane!


    Inside

    Outside

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    Default Re: You decide......

    ^ Hum......

    I could *probably* get away with that, on the front of my car......

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    Yoda of Radar
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    Thumbs up Re: You decide......

    Quote Originally Posted by TSi+WRX View Post
    ^ Hum......

    I could *probably* get away with that, on the front of my car......
    Yeah, I'm going to give it a try on the front. No way on the back, though. It would take a seriously bored cop to do a U-turn and hassle you for the front LP. But most any cop would gig you for it if he was already right behind you and saw the rear LP like that.

    Thanks for the posts, Aggie! Very helpful stuff!

    "Buy the BEST and screw the rest." - fire65

    "im intrested to see how well you do.i never seen a car JTG before would be a first for me.." - radarrob

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    Default Re: You decide......

    ^ I agree.

    The fact that I have an enforcer on my six or off my rear quarters at least twice a week (not that I'm doing anything wrong at all, just that it's the way traffic gets around here) is precisely why I set up my rear passive defense in the way that I have. I just don't want the *potential* hassles, no matter how unlikely (here in NE-Ohio, "blue" tinted covers or even "smoked" covers," as long as they allow visibility at night, typically aren't hassled - but why take the chance? particularly when my utmost aim is just not to be stopped, in the first place).

    I *think* I could get away with it up-front, but until I test this out, myself, I just won't know, for sure.

    Still, those pix are very, very good reference! Thanks again, Aggie

 

 

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