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  1. #11
    Yoda of Radar
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    Default Re: Anybody here know...

    I'm pretty sure that GOL only used one coat of Veil in their latest tests.

    Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR

    You can see it yielded some impressive results.

    Some people go with a lot of coats simply because they want a more smoked look. Others in hopes of increasing the effectiveness. I would be interested in knowing at what point the drawbacks begin to outweigh the benefits.

    "Buy the BEST and screw the rest." - fire65

    "im intrested to see how well you do.i never seen a car JTG before would be a first for me.." - radarrob

  2. #12
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    Default Re: Anybody here know...

    Thanks Stealth Stalker! One coat should do it then hopefully. I have read of others painting on more than one, but nowhere within the tests out there (GOL, and others) do they say if they used more than one. It has been a question Plaguing me.

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    Default Re: Anybody here know...

    Quote Originally Posted by REBinc View Post
    Yep, it is, guess i was wrong.
    ^ Don't feel bad - I made the very same mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carnut08 View Post
    Since the C6 uses projector type lights with very small diameters, I wonder if they are less likely to give a good speed reading at the usual clocking distance. If that's so, a black C6 with no front plate might be stealthy enough to allow the detector to give enough warning to slow down.
    I think you'll find the following discussion to reflect (sorry, no pun intended ) exactly upon what you're questioning:

    http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...tml#post465766

    Start on that page, page 3, with post 23.

    Stealth Stalker then replies, to further the discussion, which I then returned to on post number 26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Breeze View Post
    Thanks Stealth Stalker! One coat should do it then hopefully. I have read of others painting on more than one, but nowhere within the tests out there (GOL, and others) do they say if they used more than one. It has been a question Plaguing me.
    The VEIL Guy has always maintained that one good coat is all it really takes - it's that single coat that will give, percentage-wise, the greatest decrease in IR attenuation, while allowing for the best preservation of your vehicle's lighting capabilities.

  4. #14
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    Default Re: Anybody here know...

    Thanks TSi+WRX!

    That post and thread contained exactly what I was looking for and you even had a specific reference to the C6. Very helpful indeed!

    I'm disappointed with the actual data, but it is what it is.

    Cyberdemon summed it up for me (post 27) when it comes to the question of both aesthetics and the "probable cause" issue. Those points added to my additional concern about projector heat build up and light cover failure pretty well tell me that Veil isn't for me......at least at this point where lidar isn't used with great frequency where I drive.

    This is a great forum and I'll have to make it a point to keep checking back to see what comes down the pike in the future. Thanks again!

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    Default Re: Anybody here know...

    Glad to be of-service.

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    RE: heat build-up from VEIL.

    I don't really know, but I'm afraid that this would be a very real concern for you.

    HIR headlights are based off the premise that a not-insignificant amount of lighting output is lost due to the loss of IR from the capsule - and the higher resultant output of HIR headlamps makes specific use of the recapture of this....

    Given that VEIL significantly attenuates IR, I can't help but wonder how much more heat you'd trap in your headlight assembly, and if this is already an issue with the C6s, then it becomes a no-brainer that this is a no-go.



    Indeed, I, too, am sorry that the data in the other case - as well as my assumptions for the current one - isn't what you wanted to hear, but that's my best guess, for the truth.

  6. #16
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    Default Re: Anybody here know...

    Quote Originally Posted by TSi+WRX View Post
    Glad to be of-service.

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    RE: heat build-up from VEIL.

    I don't really know, but I'm afraid that this would be a very real concern for you.

    HIR headlights are based off the premise that a not-insignificant amount of lighting output is lost due to the loss of IR from the capsule - and the higher resultant output of HIR headlamps makes specific use of the recapture of this....

    Given that VEIL significantly attenuates IR, I can't help but wonder how much more heat you'd trap in your headlight assembly, and if this is already an issue with the C6s, then it becomes a no-brainer that this is a no-go.



    Indeed, I, too, am sorry that the data in the other case - as well as my assumptions for the current one - isn't what you wanted to hear, but that's my best guess, for the truth.
    More good info. Thanks once more! Your assumptions about heat track with my intuition and no-go it is.

 

 

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