Someone Please Tell Me!!!!!!!

Someone please tell me why my radar detector wouldnt go off if a cop was running radar? Because my Pro RX65 didnt go off, I got a ticket, 84 in a 65. I'm not really complaining about the ticket, its the fact that my radar detector didnt make a single sound. The cop was using a Kustom unit. He showed me my speed. The cop was cool about it! He even let me mess with my radar detector, cause I told him I had one but that it didnt make a sound. Then of course he gave me the line "you should have spend your money on something better." But, he turned it on for me again, and my detector still wouldnt go off. He even caught someones speed to show me it was on. But my detector wouldnt make a sound. But, for some reason when I went back to my car, it was going off. I dont know. I'm really pissed off that my radar detector didnt go off. Someone please explain to me why it wouldnt go off? What could be the problem? I asked when his unit had been checked to be working properly, he said earlier that day. I just dont know, I'm just really pissed off about my radar detector. Suppoedly the 2 best radar detector and it dont even make a sound. It just makes me so mad!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by NRTrackChamp2004

Someone please tell me why my radar detector wouldnt go off if a cop was running radar? Because my Pro RX65 didnt go off, I got a ticket, 84 in a 65. I'm not really complaining about the ticket, its the fact that my radar detector didnt make a single sound. The cop was using a Kustom unit. He showed me my speed. The cop was cool about it! He even let me mess with my radar detector, cause I told him I had one but that it didnt make a sound. Then of course he gave me the line "you should have spend your money on something better." But, he turned it on for me again, and my detector still wouldnt go off. He even caught someones speed to show me it was on. But my detector wouldnt make a sound. But, for some reason when I went back to my car, it was going off. I dont know. I'm really pissed off that my radar detector didnt go off. Someone please explain to me why it wouldnt go off? What could be the problem? I asked when his unit had been checked to be working properly, he said earlier that day. I just dont know, I'm just really pissed off about my radar detector. Suppoedly the 2 best radar detector and it dont even make a sound. It just makes me so mad!!!!!!!

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could be out of tune. Send it in for repair immediately

Just curious. From what vendor did you buy the RD from?

TrooNorth

Nevermind. I saw your earlier post that you bought this off ebay.

TrooNorth

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Originally Posted by happya$$

could be out of tune. Send it in for repair immediately

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well, i honestly dont care for it anymore. It has pissed me off and didnt even do what its suppose to do. I know its not suppse to prevent me from getting a ticket, it should atleast just let me know i'm getting one, but it didnt even do that. And I dont have the money to get it repaired, cause aint that $85? I'm just not got gonna speed anymore, or atleast not for a good while. But, it just pisses me off!

Sounds to me like another textbook case of why detectors should be purchased from authorized dealers, NOT from ebay.

Did it show "Service Required" or anything like that?

He might have use the stopwatch mode. It works like vascar without using the antenna. The Kustom Eagle units have this feature. The unit calculates the speed. I suspect that he did the stopwatch mode to clock your speed (you won't hear a beep with this feature because it calculates time at a pre determined distance from point A to point B) and showed you that it was working while you watch him giving you an example in stationary mode. When you went back to your vehicle, he turned on the radar unit in stationary mode and that triggered your RX65 to go off.

NRT, did you hear your RX65 go off when he gave you a demo of tracking other vehicles or were you too far from your vehicle that you can't hear your RX65 go off?

If you don't know how to use the kustom eagles, the officer can fool you. It's just how it happens most of the time - If you know you are guilty, most of the time you don't question LEO's statements.

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Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

Sounds to me like another textbook case of why detectors should be purchased from authorized dealers, NOT from ebay.

Did it show "Service Required" or anything like that?

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Yet people are still looking for a deal even after we have told everyone to never NEVER EVER buy a radar detector off Ebay....There is so much fake products sold on ebay passed off to be the real thing :roll:

Send in your RX65 to Beltronics at once. Call them at 1-800-341-2288

ok, first off, yes I know buying radar detectors off ebay are a big mistake! But, I bought it before I found this website. This website has taught me A LOT! I greatly appreciate this! And trust me, I definitely will not be buying from unathorized dealer again. Matter a fact, I will definitely buy from Radar Roy, or from Mike.

Azonehits, you make a very good point! That aint VASCAR ur talking about is it? Cause if not, you could be right. The cop was cool. He let me play with my radar detector, I asked him to turn it on while I was messing with it. He said it was on, I walked back to his car, and he was like, "I'll show you its on, wait for a car to come by." A car came by and it showed its speed. I went back to my car but it still wasnt going off. But, we talked a little more, and when I was walking back to my car, I heard my radar detector going off. I kinda hope you are right about that, cause then maybe my radar detector isnt messed up. but that still makes me mad!!!!

Sorry to hear of your ticket :(
Was it lidar, Prolasor 3?
RR

I guess the next step is reading the forum on beating your ticket now. A working detector is 100 times better than driving blind. :-)

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Azonehits, you make a very good point! That aint VASCAR ur talking about is it? Cause if not, you could be right. The cop was cool. He let me play with my radar detector, I asked him to turn it on while I was messing with it. He said it was on, I walked back to his car, and he was like, "I'll show you its on, wait for a car to come by." A car came by and it showed its speed. I went back to my car but it still wasnt going off. But, we talked a little more, and when I was walking back to my car, I heard my radar detector going off. I kinda hope you are right about that, cause then maybe my radar detector isnt messed up. but that still makes me mad!!!!

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The Kustom Eagle police radar has a stopwatch mode and it works like VASCAR without using his antenna's. Was he in front of you when he clocked you? If he was, he could have used a very short burst of instant on - a fraction of a second and most RX65 won't pick it up but he has to be very close and you should have good visual of him. If he chased to stop you without you seeing him, there is a good chance that he used his stopwatch mode where your RX65 didn't sound a beep. Neither the X50, V1 or even using a rabbit can't help you becasue there are no radar signals to detect. The worse case scenario is that your radar unit is broke. But with the circumstance given(your radar went off when you went back to your car),i doubt that your unit is broke since there was no self cal message.

The officer most likely is a seasoned one and he surely knows how your radar detector works and most importantly, he knows how to use his radar unit to suppress your radar unit. If you knew how his radar works, you should have an idea if he was using his stopwatch mode because it will show time in seconds in the lock window and your speed in the target window. In this mode, there is not much any radar detector can do because there is no radar signal to detect. If you look at the reviews of the RX65, it's one of the best.

One thing to learn is not to depend on your radar detector too much or you get nailed. Browse this forum and learn about the strength's and weaknesses of your RX65. I own a couple police radar units because i wanted to know what their strength's and weakenesses are. By being on both sides of the issue, it helps some.

Azone, thanks a lot!!!! Yes, I have read all about the RX-65. But, a question for you, is it legal for a cop to issue a ticket with this technique? Or is that kinda like POP, where an officer cant (isnt suppose to) issue a ticket. I'm definitely about to look some information up about this, cause I'm defintely fighting this. I'm even tempted to call the officer up and see if this is what he did. But, thanks for the inlightenment!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by NRTrackChamp2004

Azone, thanks a lot!!!! Yes, I have read all about the RX-65. But, a question for you, is it legal for a cop to issue a ticket with this technique? Or is that kinda like POP, where an officer cant (isnt suppose to) issue a ticket. I'm definitely about to look some information up about this, cause I'm defintely fighting this. I'm even tempted to call the officer up and see if this is what he did. But, thanks for the inlightenment!!!!!!

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If he did it by the book and there were no error message showing in his radar unit, there is a good possibility that it is legal. However, each state has their own laws and you have to do some research about it first. I don't think calling the officer will help you in any way because they have to right to use the option/features of their radar system. If using the stopwatch mode is illegal, then it should have not been printed in the kutom golden eagle manual. But it is in the manual page 7.13.

but isnt POP in the manual for the radar units with POP? I've been reading information about it, and it probably is legit to use. But, I wanna call the officer for more than that reason. On my ticket, he wrote the court date, but when giving it to me, he changed it, and wrote it on only my print of the copy, so it isnt on his copy. So I'm afraid he wont change the date on his copy, then I wont "show up for court on my date", causing a warrent for my arrest. Plus he lied to me about the legailty of laser jammers. I just want to talk to him again. He was cool. We talked for awhile about stuff when he gave me the ticket. So I just want to talk to him again to confrim that DSP is what he used, and to confirm my court date.

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Originally Posted by NRTrackChamp2004

but isnt POP in the manual for the radar units with POP?

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In your original post you said that the radar unit he was using was a kustom radar. Kustom radar unit don't have the POP feature.

i know that. I was just saying.

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Originally Posted by "NRTrackChamp2004

On my ticket, he wrote the court date, but when giving it to me, he changed it, and wrote it on only my print of the copy, so it isnt on his copy. So I'm afraid he wont change the date on his copy, then I wont "show up for court on my date", causing a warrent for my arrest. Plus he lied to me about the legailty of laser jammers. I just want to talk to him again. He was cool. We talked for awhile about stuff when he gave me the ticket. So I just want to talk to him again to confrim that DSP is what he used, and to confirm my court date.

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At the back of your ticket or citation, there is usually a phone number or a place where you have to go for your court appearance. Call that number or place where you will be having your court appearance and verify it from them and then complain if the date is not the same. Even though he wrote to change the date in your ticket, it is also early to prejudge the cop. Best thing to do is compare the courts date or data and see if it matches your court appearance date and there, you can make your conclusions. I don't think he's trying to change dates to let you not show up in court because the evidence is in your hand and favor.

I'm sorry to hear your situation and seems like you're really pissed off about it. Sometimes our emotions run high and don't rationalize the situation. At almost 20 mph over the speed limit, that's wreckless driving in some states. I'm sure some of the members including me got several citations in the past speeding but we all learn from it. No radar detector can protect us 100%. Good luck.

Its more like this Azone. Even on ProudNMAMember's k-15 mph industries handheld k band gun. I could instant on trigger fast enough lock in a speed and not have x-50 or v995 go off! But v1 alerted every time. He very well could have flipped the switch so fast that he barely obtained and locked in a speed if that is the case he very well could lock in you speed especially with a rx-65 due to the fact that the rx-65's immedicy of response time sucks don't beleive me watch out run shooting a bushnell k band gun and one missing half the alerts using this principle but him still obtaining speeds of the cars to his front. I do this all the time with my bushnell.

Here is outruns page for all that don't know it.... www.jasonsvideoproductions.com

Look around till you see k band testing bushnell or something to that tune... you'll find it when you do you'll realize why and how you got a ticket with a rx-65. I would still be sending the unit in anyhow to get it looked over by bel that was still good advice it very well may be out of tune this is also correct and highly possible but service required most likely would have came up if this was the case meaning it is out of tune and the manufacturer has to retune it and send it back to you jimbonzz nailed that one. ANd yes it very well have been vascar most people don't realize that most k band guns even have a stop watch mode so does my lidar my prolaser 1 and 2 do as well so it is very possible.



AlPiNe~

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Originally Posted by alpinestars_2002795

Its more like this Azone. Even on ProudNMAMember's k-15 mph industries handheld k band gun. I could instant on trigger fast enough lock in a speed and not have x-50 or v995 go off! But v1 alerted every time. He very well could have flipped the switch so fast that he barely obtained and locked in a speed if that is the case he very well could lock in you speed especially with a rx-65 due to the fact that the rx-65's immedicy of response time sucks don't beleive me watch out run shooting a bushnell k band gun and one missing half the alerts using this principle but him still obtaining speeds of the cars to his front. I do this all the time with my bushnell.

AlPiNe~

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I have already covered this possible situation in my previous post for 1/7/07. I also have mentioned it in some of my postings here in this forum. I myself have tested this problem with the X50 and RX65 and own a couple police radar systems even stronger than the bushnell sports radar gun. This is due to the filtering system of both the X50 and RX65 that causes that delayed reaction time. This filtering system they use is to prevent false alert and thus the X50 and Rx65 is quieter than the V1 out of the box. I also mentioned that the worse possible scenario is that his RX65 is broke or needs retuning.

I also agreed and mentioned that but the filtering was neglected to be mentioned in this poor guys case. Thats all. no bashing.


AlPiNe~

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Originally Posted by alpinestars_2002795

I also agreed and mentioned that but the filtering was neglected to be mentioned in this poor guys case. Thats all. no bashing.

AlPiNe~

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Unfortunately, even the V1 will be of no help if it was instant on and even if his RX65 was able to pick it up the alert. Filtering or no filtering, there is not much you can do with instant on. It's just an unfortunte situation and i have been in that situation too before.

Well unfortantly there is one thing you could do. Not be the rabbit and get one. This is all to common of a mistake detector users make. They go to their local walmart get a crapra and get out front thinking, "I have a radar detector im ok." Not realizing what they just said its a "radar detector" not a "Law Enforcement Detector." Then as you stated they find themselves in a world of hurt. There is more to operating a radar detector than the detector itself. You need to be constantly scanning with your eyes they will save you more often than your detector. The detector is merely backup for what your eyes don't see. The user also has to have common sense. Being out front is asking for a Leo knocking on your window saying the famous words "do you know how fast you where going?" A rabbit is first and formost a must in any detector usage! Especially now days that they have instant-on and pop radar. Who knows if you keep eyes open you might even spot camera enforcement, or even a lidar trap but those things are luck.



AlPiNe~