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I was thinking about the new gun Roy was testing the LTI 20/20 and how cheap it is and Cali is getting them (DJ maybe you are lucky to have the Zr4 now). If the LI is vulnerable to this gun what is the turnaround to get this gun covered in an update for the LI.
This gun might be a real cheap option for police departments, plus the LTI brand seems so be somewhat popular already.
I think you can update your control box on your own PC now... correct me if I am wrong but that is one of the big selling points of LI if it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by focalcivic
The firmware upgrading is still a work in progress..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovencleaner
Odd how Cliff is quiet on this one.......
A while ago Cliff told me the firmware could not be upgraded by the user. The user can change only settings (like sun interference alerts) by using an RS232 interface to a PC with the L.I. software.
To upgrade for a new laser gun, you have to send the cpu box back to L.I.
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Originally Posted by Tambourine-Man
Where do you get a RS232 interface anyway? and how do you plug it to the computer, via conversion to a USB?
I dont believe you can use a usb conversion..I know the upgrades are not able to be done by users...The user pays a small deposit and then LI ships a new cpu to owner with upgraded software. When the owner recieves new cpu he send old one back and deposit is refunded.
The RS232 port is the one commonly used for external modems. Not many modern PC's have them anymore as the modem is built in and a telephone jack has replaced the RS232 port.
There are USB to RS232 converter cables, but you need to make sure the one you get has a FTDI chip inside otherwise it won't work. Another problem is that RS232 connectors and ports come in two flavors (DB 25 or DB 9 (for the number of pins and the shape)), plus some cables are configured straight through, some are null modems, some don't connect all the pins, etc. etc..
Again - you cannot upgrade the firmware even with an RS232 port and the proper cable/connectors - with the proper L.I. software you could only change certain optional settings that are already in the firmware. to change the firmware you have to send it back.
Cliff said they have talked about making them so a user can flash them but that would be in the future.
So this port is almost useless LOL. I don't think the LI comes with any cables right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tambourine-Man
Why do you say the port is useless? Granted you cannot update the firmware, but I have not read that you can do that for any other jammer either.
I also don't know what settings you can set with or without a PC on an L.I. or any other, but at least with the software you can set certain settings on the L.I.
RS232 cables are a dime a dozen or were the last time I got some. I suppose since they are obsolete they might now be more expensive. Fortunately I have a lifetime supply of all various configurations, not including the many I already hrew out.
The USB to RS232 converter cable with the needed chip might be more expensive - I have not checked.
The RS-232 port on the LI CPU allows the User to change parameters such as but not limited to:Quote:
Originally Posted by focalcivic
- SIA (Sun Interference Alerts) Parameters
- Parking AID Parameters
- 1, 2, 3 or 4 Ports Selection Parameters
- Front or Rear LIDAR Detection and Jamming Indicator Parameters (Future Parameter not yet available)
- Add User designed Audio Alerts (aka Voice Skins) other that stock Voice Alerts or in other languages ie, French, Italian, Japanese, German, Spanish, etc.
- Garage Door and Home Interior Lighting Activator (Future Parameter not yet available)
Because the processor in the LI CPU is very powerful, an endless array of other parameters can and will be added at anytime when necessity requires us to do so.
No, the needed Serial cable is not included to keep the retail price down as well as with an eye towards users who may not wish to change the stock parameters and then have a cable they neither wanted nor wished to be forced to pay for in the retail price!
Cliff - C55
Ok, maybe not useless, but but a cable that is hard to find, doesn't help the average consumer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tambourine-Man
The cable notwithstanding, the capabilities that are enabled, even just the few currently, offer invaluable advantages to the end-user of the LI that, IMveryHO, is not available of any other current jammer.
Even now, it's head-and-shoulders above the rest.
I have two Serial to USB converters...They are easily found at the local office supply store or computer placeQuote:
Originally Posted by focalcivic
Amazon.com: Belkin USB SERIAL PORT ADAPTER ( F5U409-CU ): Electronics
No other jammer offers the ability to change programs through using a computer you are stuck holding a button and counting blinks on an LED
And possibly the best feature of the LI is that it logs the PPS of each gun shot at it then the LI headquarters can take the pulse rate and design a jamming origram for that....AND there is already a control box with the truspeed PPS on the way to croatia
Cliff said for a small fee he will update your control box. All you do is pay the small fee and place a deposit Cliff will then send out the new CPU to you and return your deposit after he recives your old CPU.
Most other jammer brain set-ups are in the jammer heads meaning to upgrade them you need to fully uninstall your set-up.
Though the Escort Zr4 with VEIL is a great jammer if you decide to go that route
I found that I had the required cable already at home, when I got my LI. The software interface, identification of guns by voice, and other features impressed me as it was clearly the leader in terms of LJ technology.
That's awesome about updating firmware. I doubt police departments will be that quick to upgrade unless jammers become much more common, but who knows?