The tables are turned on K-Band V1 vs RX65

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03-21-2006, 05:30 PM
microbb

The tables are turned on K-Band V1 vs RX65

A short while ago I posted a test on Ka-Band @35.5GHz against a parked patrol unit. The RX65 bested the V1 by 20% to 25% in that review.

Tonite along a different portion of my route, I came upon the home of an LEO who had parked his patrol car in his driveway, about 100ft from the roadbed and firing straight across it. This town uses Kustom K-Band dash mounted units, but I know they budgeted in a recent town meeting for a new cruiser, so Ka may be coming as a new toy for them.

As before, the V1 and RX65 are mounted high on either side of my rear view mirror. The V1 is in "A"ll bogey mode and factory default, while the RX65 is set to HWY, Ka=USA, POP=on. This is also in a rural area with lots of trees and widely spaced houses, so scatter gets absorbed quickly.

I made a couple of runs each direction ,and the results were pretty consistent. Coming from the north one rises up a hill from a flat portion of the road to the detecton area, which is flat and straight. The rise is steep and about a 45ft change in altitude. The V1 alerted right at the top of the hill as the car came level.

Overall range is about 900ft from the north and 1100ft from the south. The V1 alerted about 200ft sooner from the north, which may have been longer if the hill was not there, and 250ft sooner from the south.

This figures to a 20% to 25% range advantage on K-Band for the V1 over the RX65, just the opposite of the Ka-Band 35.5GHz results. Talk about frustrating! Which unit to keep?

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03-21-2006, 05:37 PM
Stalcar

Keep both, I've got them both, and find sometimes the 65 is better than the V1,sometimes the V1 is better than the 65, and that's on both k & ka bands.
03-21-2006, 06:14 PM
amoney

Not all to surpriseing, pretty much the same results GOL and other users have reported. Even the lowest performer of the "Big 3" K band rage is more than enough to warn of a trap ahead. But then you have Ka and Laser. The only real compelling factor going for the Bel/Escort is that they delevery the same performance for cheaper. A bit less "falsing". But you already the V1, so it comes down to personal preference. Which would you rather have. Oh yeah another thing, V1 customer support forever.
03-21-2006, 07:02 PM
happya$$

Ka performance is pretty good on the RX65 and X50. The V1 on Ka well............not sure yet since in my area K band dominates. I see very little Ka action nothing to get too excited over
03-21-2006, 07:31 PM
carlito

Quote:

Originally Posted by happya$$

Ka performance is pretty good on the RX65 and X50. The V1 on Ka well............not sure yet since in my area K band dominates. I see very little Ka action nothing to get too excited over

man i wish you where here my friend and u will see KA ALL OVER TULSA,OK CITY :wink:
03-21-2006, 07:53 PM
jimbonzzz

I know people frequently disregard this because of convenience etc, but I'm going to mention it again: it isn't a good idea to test performance by running two units at the same time in the same vehicle....
03-21-2006, 08:35 PM
amoney

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

I know people frequently disregard this because of convenience etc, but I'm going to mention it again: it isn't a good idea to test performance by running two units at the same time in the same vehicle....

I was under the assumption he made multiple runs? Oh well.
03-21-2006, 08:51 PM
jimbonzzz

Yeah guess I always assume the worst :lol:
03-21-2006, 08:55 PM
microbb

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

I know people frequently disregard this because of convenience etc, but I'm going to mention it again: it isn't a good idea to test performance by running two units at the same time in the same vehicle....

Thanks, but I never run both, whether on the road or testing. The data is with only one unit on at a time. It is possible I have an RX65 that is Hot at 35.5GHz or a V1 that is Cold there, but from my perusing of others results, there seems to be a trend. The K-Band results match my on the road experiences, and some testing against K-Band door openers.

The next time I find a Ka source(hopefully 35.5GHz), I'm going to make 10 runs against it with the V1. For now, I suspect a software problem because of the poor consistency. My next test may bear that out.

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03-22-2006, 11:26 AM
carlito

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbonzzz

I know people frequently disregard this because of convenience etc, but I'm going to mention it again: it isn't a good idea to test performance by running two units at the same time in the same vehicle....

You right Jim even if they dont seem to interf with each other they do best way to really test is have one radar detector at 1 time trun on even haveing them trun off it still can effect the other one dont even have 2 in the car at the same time :) :lol:
03-22-2006, 02:45 PM
Studdg

Keep the V1, since it'll still be working in 10 years, and you can get it upgraded to be the top 1 or 2 when technology changes, and Belscort users need all new units.
03-22-2006, 07:46 PM
Stalcar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Studdg

Keep the V1, since it'll still be working in 10 years, and you can get it upgraded to be the top 1 or 2 when technology changes, and Belscort users need all new units.

I say keep both always good to have back-ups
03-23-2006, 03:53 PM
carlito

I would say but 2 v1s. i tend to buy a newer model in the future a 1.9 and keeping my 1.7 for a backup but for right now i am good with the v1.7 so far i am happy with it.
03-26-2006, 07:18 PM
icantdrive55

arrows

one word.

arrows.

:D
03-26-2006, 08:01 PM
TexasRed

I drove to Lubbock, Texas and saw 9 Troopers with stalker Ka guns. V1 owned them. I was being stupid and never did the trip odo on the alerts, but will attempt to get some ranges on the drive home tomorrow morning, as I am writing this from my cousin's apartment.

There was one particular alert that subsided my fears of Ka inadequacy. Ka with one LED lit for about 30 seconds, no lie. I was near Snyder, Texas with a lot of shallow hills and such, there really isnt much of a viewing distance. Lo and behold the V1 jumps to around 4 or LEDs for about 10 seconds and as Im watching oncoming traffic, a Trooper tops the hill and V1 jumps to full alert. Pretty impressive. But its not over yet. I didnt see him but, he must have turned around in the median because I was getting intermittent weak alerts with one bogey pointing behind (love these arrows) every time I crested a hill. This lasted for about a minute or two due to his speed probably being close to mine, around 74 or 75 in a 70. My exit was coming up so I slowed down considerably to see if he really was back there. I turned onto US 84 from I20 westbound, and slowed to 60. No traffic so I was okay. Sure enough here he comes back westbound on I 20 and passes my exit and keeps on trucking west. Very cool.
03-27-2006, 04:54 AM
Stalcar

Re: arrows

Quote:

Originally Posted by icantdrive55

one word.

arrows.

:D

nope :twisted:
03-27-2006, 06:16 AM
TexasRed

Re: arrows

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stalcar

Quote:

Originally Posted by icantdrive55

one word.

arrows.

:D

nope :twisted:

:?: :?:
03-27-2006, 07:51 PM
Stalcar

Re: arrows

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasRed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stalcar

Quote:

Originally Posted by icantdrive55

one word.

arrows.

:D

nope :twisted:

:?: :?:

I've got both and the arrows aren't that important to me.Can live without them 8)
07-19-2006, 08:45 PM
WRC

rx-65 really owns Ka band but not as good on K or X, but for the price it's a really excellent rd
09-04-2006, 07:47 AM
Jamescase10

after trying an experiment...I am sold and buyin a V1

I found out...the 985 was happy with a passport 4200 mounted in the rear bumper..way low. I used soder and put a speaker and a few leds in the dash for remote mounting. I did extensive testing to be sure they where not fighting each other..and they wernt. The 4200 happens to be very good in KA and laser, but suxs in all other. But who cares with a 985 demon high in the frt window? BTW, the 4200 also happens to be VERY non leaky. In fact, they made it just before Mike quit escort. Maybe he designed it. Anyway...it did help me to determine without thinking too hard...or long...where the radar was slamming me. Well, after using this setup for a while I realized that KA band hitting you from the rear your range suxs unless you have a rear facing horn. So bad that if the leo is hitting you from the rear, you might as well have a new cobra. (which suxs) Bottom line...if the leo CAN clock you from the rear...(which he can nowadays) YOU NEED A REAR POINTING HORN. Now I realize that its very hard for a leo to clock you that way...dont forget...he has the ability to clock you with his speedo. He can estimate your speed and ticket you.