Need some help making a decision

[edo]

Hi ya'll. I'm new on board.

I'm looking for a RD, but don't know which to choose. Maybe you could help me.

I'm from Europe, so I need a RD with Ku band detection (although police in my country doesn't have Ku radars, but such are used in some other European countries and some day these Ku radars might appear here).

Police in my country uses laser guns mostly (about 95% of all speed measuring devices), there are still some (very few) old X band radars left, which are used in rural areas, photoradars are spreadding rapidly in cities and highways, but the biggest headache is new russian K band POP radars, which number is growing really fast. Speed can be measured both from stationary position or from moving cars (opposite and same direction moving modes) with the radar, it can be pluged to a laptop and it reads speeds of 4 cars at once! This is really scary.. Several of my friends already paid huge fines because of the radar (they have laser jammers and RDs installed, but RDs didn't give a single beep). I myself have a Target LT400 installed for laser protection (saved my butt many times) and I also have a very simple RD (guess, most of you haven't even heard of such a brand - Mongoose UB-180 MX), which i use very rarely (only when I go somewhere to province or in order to test which photoradars work). It detects only X and K bands..

So, as I already told, my biggest headache is these new POP radars :x Which RD would you recommend? I was thinking about Whistler XTR-425 or XTR-520 (these have Ku band and POP detection), but I'm not sure about their performance..

Thanks in advance..

P.S. Sorry for my English if I made some mistakes..

[T-T]

Welcome on the board! 8)

There is a Mongoose UB 360-5 which could detect Ku Band, too.

But I could recommend 2 reliable detectors only, based on your criterias:
1.) BEL Professional Series RX-65 http://www.radarbusters.com/products...onics/rx65.asp
2.) Valentine One

By the way, I never heard anything from those new Russian POP radars. :shock: Would you be so kind to share your info about them?

[amoney]

Are you sure about the POP... sounds like alot of mis information blown out of porportion, the best POP detector out there seems to be the NEW Beltronics STi, but even then POP is still difficult to detect.

I am thinking they have low powered multinovas, also POP is so weak and sketchy that it can barely distinguish one moving target let alone tracking 4 cars at the same time, lol.

I did hear rummors of multi-target laser tracking, now that is not funny, but I doubt we are at that point yet... closest target - furthest target distance.

[Speedbar]

Slt,

Does all depend on the price which you want?

SpeedCrystal S Naxel KF2020 for 99 € not expensive is very correct for the price.
Beltronics vector 995 per 499 € expensive but.
Quintezz XT7000 Z-2 More for 249 € not too expensive.

With you to see.

I believe that certain people have SpeedCrystal S Naxel KF2020 on this forum.

Good evening.

A+ Speed

[SmaartAasSaabr]

What kind of X band radars are they using? If it is standard 11,5 GHz that is no problem for pretty much every RD - but if they are using 9,90 GHz you need something that can capture that. The old Beltronics 990 International was pretty handy for that.

[edo]

Thanks for your answers, guys!

By the way, I never heard anything from those new Russian POP radars. :shock: Would you be so kind to share your info about them?

Believe me, I wish I hadn't have heard too.. However, there's quite a big possibility to get caught speeding with "help" of these damn radars. :x They are called Berkut (БЕРКУТ in Russian). I've seen them on tv several times - they are really small. Luckily, I haven't seen them in reality... I've heard, that the radar transmits very quick and short burst of pulse waves, which is too brief for RDs to hear it (my friends RD, which detects ordinary radars superbly, doesn't give a single beep). So, I guess this is what a POP mode is. I also have read that they transmit 24,15 GHz frequency waves. And as I have already told, speed can be measured both from stationary position and from opposite or same direction moving modes, the radar can be pluged to a laptop and it reads speeds of 4 cars at once. Thats pretty much what I know about it.

Does all depend on the price which you want?

Well, that's a difficult question.. The biggest issue for me is "safety" - RD's good performance on detecting these new POP radars (my car is protected from laser guns). Of course, if there are any good and cheap RD's in doing that, I would definately buy them, but I'm sure that usually price is based on performance. So, I would like to find a compromise (I really don't want to spend 500$ or more on RD...).

Talking about your suggestions. Never heard of such brands (except Bel, of course)... I'd rather buy a RD of a well known producer (like Escort, Beltronics, Whistler or smth like that). Or maybe my point of view isn't correct? Are your suggested RDs really good performance wise?

What kind of X band radars are they using? If it is standard 11,5 GHz that is no problem for pretty much every RD - but if they are using 9,90 GHz you need something that can capture that. The old Beltronics 990 International was pretty handy for that.

I think it's 11,5 GHz as all RDs detect them. But I really don't worry about these old X band radars as there are only several left in use..

[spankyaf]

Valentine is the top RD performer in North America. You dont have to worry about quality manufacturing with Valentine.

It has a fanatical following among professional users.

[proudNMAmember]

X2 spankyaf.

[SmaartAasSaabr]

Valentine is the top RD performer in North America. You dont have to worry about quality manufacturing with Valentine.

It has a fanatical following among professional users.

But he is in Europe... Getting a Valentine is rather difficult and costly for the most part.

I think the NAXEL detectors are crap for the most part and would never pay 499 e for a V995 when they can be had for 299 USD + shipping. Or an RX65.

I think the best performer you can get would be a Bel Euro 550 but they are not cheap. An RX65 should be better than a Whistler Euro detector. But the RX65 is primarily suited to driving in North America.

I don't know the exact specifications of the "Berkut", perhaps it's just like in the old Soviet days, take American equipment and make a bad copy of it Indeed, the American MPH Z-series "POP" K-band gun which uses a 16ms burst of radar is very difficult to detect.

[edo]

But the RX65 is primarily suited to driving in North America..

What do you mean? Is there a big difference between frequencies of radars' used in North America and Europe? I have always thought the frequencies were almost identical... My friend has Passport 8500 X50 and he is really satisfied with it's performance... Despite the fact, that the detector is also suited primarily for America.
And one question: is there a possiblity to adjust frequencies that RX65 detects? I mean, if I knew the freq of, for instance, photoradar, could I choose it and the detector wouldn't beep when the frequency differed too much (thus lessening number of false alerts)? Hope you understood what I meant..

I don't know the exact specifications of the "Berkut", perhaps it's just like in the old Soviet days, take American equipment and make a bad copy of it Indeed, the American MPH Z-series "POP" K-band gun which uses a 16ms burst of radar is very difficult to detect.

Well, probably you're right But these "Berkuts" seem to be very appealing for our police: they are much cheaper than lidars and there are much more features and ways of use.