Besides $$$ and they are not FCC approved why do I not want a STINGER?

[STiMULi]

I wonder if the would send a unit for a GOL testing

[jtsjc1]

Pretty impressive! Some great features if they work as advertised. They could really get some serious buisness in the U.S. even though its expensive.

[snoopyc4]

We CAN re-open them, but for best results PM a mod/admin directly, rather than posting "can we get this thread re-opened" in random places because we might not see it.

[Jstglockem]

I would have to buy a FLIR before I pulled the trigger on that--ok maybe not

[protias]

I would have to buy a FLIR before I pulled the trigger on that--ok maybe not

Depends on the FLIR. The 300D just shows heat while FLIR ThermaCAM B-CAM will show you the different temperatures.

[Radar]

Okay, I admit I may have bitten off more than I can chew. Thus, I am vulnerable to attack on this one. Curse you STiMULi! However, here it goes:

Feature: Safety Signals
Situation: you are driving on the motor way when your DSI announces: “SAFETY SIGNALS: Road works.” Sure enough, a kilometer down the road you encounter road works.

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? Here's your sign. I can read signs and see safety warnings. They've been around a long time.

Feature: SPECS Alerting
Situation: Some time later your DSI announces that you are driving into a ‘SPECS’ camera area.
Explanation: On many roads in Europe (UK, Germany, Spain, The Netherlands, France, Italy, etc) the police measure your average speed over a fixed distance: generally referred to as ‘SPECS’.

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? I'm an American.

Feature: Laser Alerting
"Only close to a mile later, you see a police man - hunched over a farmland gate - with a laser gun." Really? A RD that can detect laser a mile ahead? Interesting.
Explanation: "Stinger DSI's Laser Alerting is extraordinarily sensitive." I guess so! A mile away!
"In addition, Stinger Laser encompasses a breakthrough novelty - it is able to recognise and indicate the type of police laser gun: Is it a Laser Patrol or an Ultralyte? 'Gun recognition' is not just a nice gimmick. It is evidence of Stinger's Laser Alerting's accuracy and professionalism." Breakthrough? Really? Then why does my LI already have that feature? I guess LI just copied the Stinger "breakthrough."

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? I already have these features in my car ... in a laser jammer (except not even mine will detect a mile away in reality). Oh, and they are lying about their product's range.

Feature: LaserShield®
Situation: "Your Stinger not only warns you against an upcoming laser gun speed check, but thanks to LaserShield also makes it impossible for the laser gun to obtain an initial reading of your speed."

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? I already have this feature in my car ... in a laser transponder.

Feature: SpotList Alarting
Situation: A few kilometers down the road your DSI sounds an alert and displays: “SpotList Alarm”. You ascertain that you are not speeding. Then you see what your DSI already knew: A speed trap. You drive past it without changing your speed and without worries.

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? I already have this feature in my phone (Trapster) and in my mirror (Cheetah).

Feature: Radar Alerting
Situation: "You are driving in a country where Radar Alerting is allowed. Your Stinger sounds and shows an alert. Not loud, but clear. Both the alert sound and the display make clear that you are approaching a radar speed trap. You continue to drive at your steady and comfortable speed, while focusing on the road. The DSI alert keeps sounding. Many hundreds of meters later you see a mobile speed trap which doesn’t startle you in the least - for you already knew you were not speeding."

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? I already have this feature in my car. It is called a radar detector.

Explanation: "Wherever Radar Alerting is allowed, the DSI can locate police radars. Because of its hyper-intelligent and advanced military technologies, the Stinger DSI can catch radar at more than double the distance radar detectors can. The Stinger DSI is the best alerter for speed traps in the world."

Really? Best in the world? And it doesn't pick up Ka? Well, it does pick up laser a mile away, so this must be true also. Oh, and it is not a Radar Detector after all. It is something totally different. a DSI. So it really is much better than just a radar detector.

Feature: DSI undetectable for “Radar Detector Detector”
"Since the DSI Computer is not a Radar Detector, you will probably not be suprised that even the newest “Radar Detector Detectors” are not capable of detecting it. From a legal point of view it might be irrelevant that the DSI cannot be detected. The Stinger’s stealth characteristics are, however, an important convenience for the Stinger user: he will not be unnecessarily bothered by the police, asking him whether he is using a radar detector."

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? I don't have to worry about this, and life is too short to worry about things you do not need to worry about.

Feature: FalseListing™
"Imagine this: You drive past the same petrol station every day. The automatic doors of that petrol station cause the radar detector to produce a false alarm. Every morning. Is that radar detector slow witted? Yes. The Stinger DSI is far more intelligent. All the DSI motorist needs to do is press the 'FalseList' button when passing the petrol station. From then on, you will no longer be bothered by false alarms when driving past that location."

Wow! Sounds like an Escort.
Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? I have K band muting enabled on my V1 for 30 seconds. For those automatic doors that are able to send a strong enough signal (over 4 lights) or send the signal long enough (31 seconds), I hear 2 words "K band" from the Cheetah, which has city mute enabled. I will forgive my slow-witted V1 for those 2 words in those situations, and I return 2x the words -- "I love you too" every morning 6 minutes from home as I go to work. It is a special moment we share together. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Feature: SpeedSense™
"Do you often hear radar alerts even though you aren't speeding? The Stinger DSI allows you to enter two speed values below which no alarm will sound, one for motorways and one for non-motorway driving. The DSI GPS module determines which of the two values to apply. The luxury of relaxed driving."

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? Because I already have this feature in my car ... in my Cheetah mirror (for one speed though, not two speeds). It would be nice to have a second speed filter if you are on a freeway where the speed limit will be at least 55. Unfortunately, the problem is that the gps would have to be way senstive to know you are not on the access road. If you are going 55 on the access road, you could get a ticket if it thinks you're on the freeway. Also, these change with construction. I'm not sure I'd want or trust the 2nd speed filter setting.

Feature: "F-16 technology in your car’s cockpit
The Spectrum Analyzer is quite possibly DSI’s most spectacular component. It’s the kind of state of the art measuring equipment one would only expect to encounter in scientific research centers or the R&D department of huge corporations. Price: euro 50,000. Stinger has developed a more affordable miniature version. This enables DSI to dissect a microwave radar signal into patterns, frequencies, and amplitudes. Stinger has coupled the Spectrum Analyzer with an integrated ‘Phased Array Radar’, or patch, antenna to serve as the receptor. Until recently, one could only find these credit card thin patch antennas on the nose of military jets like the F-16 and in anti-rocket defence systems."

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? Because I don't drive an F-16, and I don't want to be the first on this forum to be able to know what band of radar has been aimed at my car. It might hurt others' feelings and make them jealous.

The future begins here:

Feature: PoliceCheck
Situation: "Once you have arrived at your place of work, you notice how pleasantly quiet your DSI remains. The radar detector you used to drive with, regularly annoyed with its many false alarms. But not your DSI. Feeling relaxed, you step out of your car, all ready to start your working day. At the office, however, a nasty little surprise awaits you: a speeding ticket. You wonder if it is correct. By clicking your DSI display onto the Stinger PC Interface, you connect it to your PC in order to check the data of the speeding tickets against your PoliceCheck data base. Your DSI data show that at the time of the alleged speeding you were not where the speeding ticket says that you were. Moreover, your data shows that you have not been speeding anywhere, for that matter. This is enough cause for you to appeal against the speeding fine."

Explanation: "Not all speed checks get executed correctly. Sometimes police radars operate outside the legal radar frequency band widths, or have been set up at a wrong angle vis-à-vis the road. Further, it happens that unclear photographs and/or inaccurate police work result in license plates being read incorrectly. So what if you get a speeding ticket? Generally, the license plate holder will be deemed guilty, unless he can prove not to have been responsible for the alleged speeding. PoliceCheck helps you to lift this burden of evidence. DSI records where you have driven, if you have encountered active speed traps, and what your speed has been. On top of that, the Stinger DSI measures and records the exact radar frequency of every active radar speeds trap you have passed. This way the DSI Computer assists you to appeal against speeding tickets that are incorrect."

Bottom Line: Why do I not want a Stinger? Because I don't have to deal with speed cameras. However, I would still like this feature to deal with lying cops. It is cool, and it seems Cheetah could create this feature, but has not. This is a feature for the future. Congratulations!

Feature: Mileage Logging
Situation: You start your car, and your DSI comes to life automatically. Immediately, DSI asks you what kind of trip you will be making: Business, Private, or Commute. With one touch of a button, you choose Commute. You drive away.
Explanation: If desired, your DSI can assist you with your mileage logging, making it elementary to keep track of your business versus private car usage.

Okay, this is another cool feature ... if you have to keep track of business miles for tax or work purposes.

Feature: Laser Safety Signals
Situation: You are driving on a rather empty motorway. Suddenly, you hear your DSI's audio alert. You let go of the accelerator in order to gradually slow down. Your Stinger shows: Safety Signal - Braking Traffic. To be on the safe side, you start driving at 60 mph where 70 mph would be allowed. A mile down the road, all traffic is actually standing still on the motorway. Thanks to your DSI with Laser Safety Signals, however, you comfortably come to a full stop much ahead of the other vehicles.

Explanation: Laser Safety Signals can also transmit 'car-to-car' alerts. This enables a Stinger-DSI user who employs Stinger Laser, to alert other Stinger users by initiating or relaying Safety Signals. For instance, a Stinger user who hits the breaks, generates a 'Heavy braking' signal on the Memory Display of Stinger users in his vicinity. Safe driving is a part of comfortable driving.

Okay, another feature for the future. Now, can we use this feature to initiate a Trapster alert?

The Stinger DSI is as accurate as it is quiet.
As previously mentioned, the new Stinger is not a radar detector. Thanks in part to the Spectrum Analyzer and 'patch antenna' technology, the system is able to spot police radars with scientific accuracy at distances previously thought impossible. The DSI Computer can issue a warning at over twice the distance of radar detectors such as the legendary Stinger Ventura.

??? This could put the Redline to shame? Someone needs to test this.

[STiMULi]

Okay, I admit I may have bitten off more than I can chew. Thus, I am vulnerable to attack on this one. Curse you STiMULi! ??? This could put the Redline to shame? Someone needs to test this.

Many of your points I agree with. Here are some I do not but they are not well informed and some are just guesses.

It does support Ka but I do not know if it supports the full range.

The road sign function is because SWS has not been accepted in the US.

While it does sound like many of the items we already have now what I like about it the most is the RADAR sensitivity. and the modularity of the LASER goodies. I like the tracking capabilities. A spectrum analyzer at that range in incredible.

It would be nice to have a product that could evolve

[STiMULi]

Okay, I admit I may have bitten off more than I can chew. Thus, I am vulnerable to attack on this one. Curse you STiMULi! ??? This could put the Redline to shame? Someone needs to test this.

Many of your points I agree with. Here are some I do not but they are not well informed and some are just guesses.

It does support Ka but I do not know if it supports the full range.

The road sign function is because SWS has not been accepted in the US.

While it does sound like many of the items we already have now what I like about it the most is the RADAR sensitivity and the modularity of the LASER goodies. I like the tracking capabilities. A spectrum analyzer at that range in incredible.

It would be nice to have a product that could evolve.

EDIT:

Wont be long before someone will try selling this here

Check this out:

Stinger also offer side jamming, as yet its not needed in the UK it wont be long though. Autovelox have been getting approval for a new speedtrap across Europe. Autovelox is widely used in Europe this system uses two laser beams across the road to detect vehicle speed and then photograph the offending vehicle.

[kaotik78]

Wonder if I can find one when I go to Sweden in May, lol. Just be thankfull the US hasn't gone as hardcore as the UK with speedtraps, remote GATSO cams, and dodgy bobby's hiding in the woods with lidar guns. Cheeky bastards!

[STiMULi]

I would be interested in what you find out.

I am going to give them a call on Monday morning to find out what the specs are when compared to American radar.

I will post what I find.