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    Default V! Laser sensitivity: How is it achieved?

    Wondering if anyone has some knowledge as to how the V1 achieves the great laser detection. What is its design/construction that other RD manufacturer are not doing?

    Also, does the V1 has a true rear laser lense, or merely a "light pipe" like the others?

    thanks

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    Default Re: V! Laser sensitivity: How is it achieved?

    Quote Originally Posted by karl56
    Wondering if anyone has some knowledge as to how the V1 achieves the great laser detection. What is its design/construction that other RD manufacturer are not doing?
    For one, the V1 uses a compound parabolic concentrator, which the others do not. There is likely some other things involved as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by karl56
    Also, does the V1 has a true rear laser lense, or merely a "light pipe" like the others?
    Yes it's a real laser sensor, but the rear doesn't have a compound parabolic concentrator like the front.

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    I wonder why other manufactors don't try to do something similar to this to achieve better laser sensitivity?

    Does V1 have a patent on it or something?

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    There's no V1 patent on it. I guess they either don't want to add additional cost to the detectors, or they don't care as much about laser performance...

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    The compound parabolic concentrator is pretty big too. My guess is the cost plus it doesn't give that much of an advantage preventing a ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbonzzz
    There's no V1 patent on it. I guess they either don't want to add additional cost to the detectors, or they don't care as much about laser performance...
    I seriously wouldn't mind it though, even if the gain having it is minimal. Just my opinion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>>
    This is why the Valentine One can detect laser better than the rest.

    The Valentine One back in the day had six individual infrared laser photo diodes mounted on the laser board and facing the front of the car (two at an angle to obtain greater coverage).

    http://www.ieec.binghamton.edu/ieec/..._detectors.htm




    The current Valentine One has a huge compound parabolic concentrator for laser detection that will alert almost 100% of the time when shot with laser from almost any distance.






    Some testing of the Valentine One's laser detection:

    http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detector-performance/

    http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detec...adar-detector/

    http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detec...ice-laser-gun/

    http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detec...adar-detector/

    http://www.laserveil.com/laser-detec...ice-laser-gun/


    These are the exact number of times that each detector alerted to laser from 1000 feet or less:


    V1

    179 out of 180 times


    RX65

    46 out of 180 times


    STi

    57 out of 180 times


    Cobra

    25 out of 180 times


    X50

    81 out of 180 times


    Whistler

    16 out of 180 times

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    When did V1 quit using the diodes; what year? When it used the diodes, was it still tops as far as laser detection?

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    Follow-up question:

    How does the Escort ZR3 (and SR_ cousins) achieve their level of what is generally considered as among the best reception for active jammers (even when compared to the LPP/AL, which each use an optical collimator)?

    The V1's design, to me, as a flashlight enthusiast, just "makes sense."

    But what's allowing the ZR3 to do so well, compared to its counterparts?

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    dam that laser thing is HUGE on the v1

 

 

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