Heres Savvy

[THRASHER]

I don't understand why people think savvy is the furthest ESP integration will go. The developments that OBD-II integration allows are pretty astounding.

I say wait. There is more to come.

WAIT? For what, more to come in another 15 years? Sorry, but Savvy is VERY underwhelming ...

[KidA]

I don't understand why people think savvy is the furthest ESP integration will go. The developments that OBD-II integration allows are pretty astounding.

I say wait. There is more to come.

WAIT? For what, more to come in another 15 years? Sorry, but Savvy is VERY underwhelming ...

Oh I agree. Savvy is extremely underwhelming to the point of me actually being angry at myself for getting excited over it. Should have expected such hype for such a pointless product. While it's cool... I guess; It's way too late and anyone who wanted a quiet city detector already has a 9500ix.

ESP integration would be great if some aftermarket developers were allowed to develop products based on it.

[Ibis Ghost]

I'll end up getting the product as soon as it comes out, just because it's fairly cheap and the hard wiring is a winner however I've already got me car hard wired. Although I'm no expert about what Saavy is...so can someone explain to me what are the potential of this product and integrated with the V1?

[rrftw]

Maybe Valentine is clinging on to the enthusiasts who still have faith in the future of the company. I mean $80 for an upgrade from a new V1 bought less than 6 months ago? I hope I'm not right about this, it's just the way the last few years have unfolded in the industry. Cobra's going down the drain, Escort engulfed Beltronics. Valentine is standing in the way of Belscort from total domination. I feel like its Apple vs. Android. They never lead, always follow (band segmentation, etc).

It's easy to bm and rage over Savvy, but please don't take this as one. This isn't bm, it's just my rant and work is currently mind-numbing -__-... I had hoped that Savvy was some form of Escort Live or Radar Active (V1 dedicated and which is awesome!) It would cost about the same to get the Radar Active module to Savvy. So V1 fans, don't be bummed, you can always get that instead =)

I'm not the most educated person on Savvy so I feel kind of stupid for posting this (ready for the bm, keep me entertained at work!), but it's a slightly different perspective... i think. Regardless of this, there's still a bit track left on this coaster and I'll definitely ride it out. ^_^

[nine_c1]

I'll end up getting the product as soon as it comes out, just because it's fairly cheap and the hard wiring is a winner however I've already got me car hard wired. Although I'm no expert about what Saavy is...so can someone explain to me what are the potential of this product and integrated with the V1?

The only benefits of tapping into the OBDII port I can see are what Savvy provides..........a +12v power source and vehicle speed information. Speed info can be used to set a threshold for alerts to relieve you from hitting that mute button under a preset speed (which Savvy does) and a few other things which Savvy doesn't do.

For instance, Belscort's GPS detectors can display your speed so there is only one thing you have to look at when your detector goes off and some (like the iQ or Escort Live enabled) will alert you when you are over the posted speed limit.

So there is not a whole lot of potential by tapping into the OBDII alone, and I think alot of us were expecting some type of smartphone connection or alternate display to go along with this OBDII connection. I have to believe that is the case since Valentine went through so much trouble with the ESP protocol update..........but you never know.

It's just very frustrating to wait so long and then get this by itself in the Savvy rollout.

[fwb]

As a computer engineer I was excited to read about this upgrade. It's actually a cool feature, I'm 99 percent sure there is some type of microprocessor in there that is required to pull data off of the ODB CAN network to decode it; it's not as simple as it sounds. And providing a convenient, clean, effortless way to hard-wire power is a huge plus.

Anyone know how this interacts with powering the car on and off (like will it kill power to the V1 with the engine off, or would you have to manually turn on/off the V1?)

[nine_c1]

As a computer engineer I was excited to read about this upgrade. It's actually a cool feature, I'm 99 percent sure there is some type of microprocessor in there that is required to pull data off of the ODB CAN network to decode it; it's not as simple as it sounds. And providing a convenient, clean, effortless way to hard-wire power is a huge plus.

Anyone know how this interacts with powering the car on and off (like will it kill power to the V1 with the engine off, or would you have to manually turn on/off the V1?)

There are about (4) different pin layout protocols for the OBDII port connector which vary by manufacturer, but one thing is standard.

Pin #16 is the +12v and pin #4 is always ground.

And...........the +12v is NOT switched.

[Rags]

As a computer engineer I was excited to read about this upgrade. It's actually a cool feature, I'm 99 percent sure there is some type of microprocessor in there that is required to pull data off of the ODB CAN network to decode it; it's not as simple as it sounds. And providing a convenient, clean, effortless way to hard-wire power is a huge plus.

Anyone know how this interacts with powering the car on and off (like will it kill power to the V1 with the engine off, or would you have to manually turn on/off the V1?)

There are about (4) different pin layout protocols for the OBDII port connector which vary by manufacturer, but one thing is standard.

Pin #16 is the +12v and pin #4 is always ground.

And...........the +12v is NOT switched.

That is correct, however even though it's not switched, Savvy turns the V1 off when the engine is shut off.

[Rags]

Nine,

While the OBD2 power is not switched power, the Savvy does turn off the V1 when the engine is shut off.

[Rags]

I don't understand why people think savvy is the furthest ESP integration will go. The developments that OBD-II integration allows are pretty astounding.

I say wait. There is more to come.

WAIT? For what, more to come in another 15 years? Sorry, but Savvy is VERY underwhelming ...

Oh I agree. Savvy is extremely underwhelming to the point of me actually being angry at myself for getting excited over it. Should have expected such hype for such a pointless product. While it's cool... I guess; It's way too late and anyone who wanted a quiet city detector already has a 9500ix.

ESP integration would be great if some aftermarket developers were allowed to develop products based on it.

Hype? What hype? I saw NOTHING out of VR regarding Savvy prior to its release.

I think you mean speculation. You can't blame VR for speculation by uninformed people.