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    Default Long distance Whistler XTR-140 I/O save

    Borrowed my Mother-in-law's car and she happens to have my old XTR-140. Saved from 2 miles out, no less. 85 in a 65, that would've been a big ticket.

    Just thought I'd share

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    Default Re: Long distance Whistler XTR-140 I/O save

    Nice ...was it Ka band? Whistler can sniff out weak Ka alerts very well.
    Last edited by Jag42; 07-28-2009 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Nice ...was it Ka band? Whistler can sniff out weak Ka alerts very well.
    Sorry to interrupt. Keep it real button here again. No, they cannot. In fact, a Whistler's biggest weakness is detecting faint signals, because they lack sensitivity.

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    Default Re: Long distance Whistler XTR-140 I/O save

    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Nice ...was it Ka band? Whistler can sniff out weak Ka alerts very well.
    Sorry to interrupt. Keep it real button here again. No, they cannot. In fact, a Whistler's biggest weakness is detecting faint signals, because they lack sensitivity.
    Geez, DJ Have you ever owned a Whistler for more than 2 months and have driven around with one more than 1,000 miles? Whistler can detect very brief Ka alerts ( at least the pro 78) I can detect Instant on faint signals at 3 miles. MEM-TEK also agrees the Pro 78 does very well detecting very quick Instant on pulls. I'm just going to go out there and make some videos of distant trigger pulls to give you the real button right back Do you stalk my posts? I have 40,000 miles with REV C platform.

    Speaking of sensitivity didn't a 995 beat a V1 on 35.5 Ka on your test ? Sensitivity doesn't always win.
    Last edited by Jag42; 07-28-2009 at 01:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Nice ...was it Ka band? Whistler can sniff out weak Ka alerts very well.
    Yes, Ka band. Probably 34.7 (since it was a FHP vehicle) but no tech display to confirm. The XTR-140 is usually reasonable on 33.6 and 34.7 in a straight line and unacceptably bad off axis. It's hopeless with 35.5 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    Sorry to interrupt. Keep it real button here again. No, they cannot. In fact, a Whistler's biggest weakness is detecting faint signals, because they lack sensitivity.
    Are we going down this path again? My $130 Whistler gets 2+ mile range on Ka 34.7. My $50 Whistler gets about 1 mile range on Ka 34.7.

    Now, may I direct your attention to the last chart on THIS website.

    The REV C Platform sniffs out I/O better than the v955, v995, v965, STI, and RX-65.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Geez, DJ Have you ever owned a Whistler for more than 2 months and have driven around with one more than 1,000 miles?
    My time with the SEs was plenty long enough to know how well they detect weak signals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Whistler can detect very brief Ka alerts ( at least the pro 78) I can detect Instant on faint signals at 3 miles.
    I'll give you brief, even though I wasn't all that impressed by the Whistler during my quick trigger testing(certainly not V1-like), but faint, no way, unless your definition of faint is different than mine. The Whistlers will not detect any signal that's less than about 4 dots on a V1. If a signal is 4 dots or more on a V1, I personally wouldn't classify that signal as weak or faint.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    MEM-TEK also agrees the Pro 78 does very well detecting very quick Instant on pulls.
    ....which has absolutely nothing to do with weak signals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    I'm just going to go out there and make some videos of distant trigger pulls to give you the real button right back
    Again, quick trigger pulls have zippo to do with weak or faint signals. Make a video where at some distance, your Pro78 will detect a weak C/O signal, but a Vector series Bel or refurb 8500 cannot detect that same signal. That will prove your statement that the Whistler is capable of detecting weak signals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Do you stalk my posts?
    Nope, but if I see you or anyone else that is making what I believe to be a incorrect statement, I'll call you on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    I have 40,000 miles with REV C platform.
    Congratulations on that. Based on your vast experience, you also think your Whistler is -108dB on 34.7Ka, which I know they are not capable of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Speaking of sensitivity didn't a 995 beat a V1 on 35.5 Ka on your test ? Sensitivity doesn't always win.
    That is correct. The V1s are known to have tunnel vision on 35.5Ka.

    Quote Originally Posted by Güero View Post
    Are we going down this path again? My $130 Whistler gets 2+ mile range on Ka 34.7. My $50 Whistler gets about 1 mile range on Ka 34.7.

    Now, may I direct your attention to the last chart on THIS website.

    The REV C Platform sniffs out I/O better than the v955, v995, v965, STI, and RX-65.
    ...and none of this has anything to do with detecting weak signals, which was what Jag42 is claiming the Whistlers are good at.

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    Default Re: Long distance Whistler XTR-140 I/O save

    I/O Ka 35.5 @ 1 Mile with "some terrain in between" is rather "weak" in my book. Especially since 35.5 Ka is the hardest to detect.

    And once again from one of my previous statements, isn't 1 mile range enough MOST of the time? Especially on I/O? Especially on I/O 35.5? Especially on I/O 35.5 with a $130 RD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Güero View Post
    I/O Ka 35.5 @ 1 Mile with "some terrain in between" is rather "weak" in my book. Especially since 35.5 Ka is the hardest to detect.
    Cobras are notoriously awful at detecting 35.5Ka and even they detected this I/O shot, at this distance, 2 out of 3 times. I wasn't there, so I can't know for sure, but that leads me to believe that this signal was not weak at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Güero View Post
    And once again from one of my previous statements, isn't 1 mile range enough MOST of the time? Especially on I/O? Especially on I/O 35.5? Especially on I/O 35.5 with a $130 RD?
    That's for each person to decide, but value has nothing to do with a detector's ability to detect a weak signal.

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    Default Re: Long distance Whistler XTR-140 I/O save

    It's going to be tough for you three to debate on this because you guys have a different idea as to what a weak signal actually is.

 

 

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