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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeslc View Post
    If you put aside those Ka9 false alerts, are you getting any kind of good radar detections from your Pro 78se? I'm under the impression that the SEs you have are performing very poorly for you.
    Yeah, they perform poorly for me. I didn't get anything near what your videos show. I mean, not close. It's probably a combination of tons more traffic, terrain and location and a s**tload more false alerts. If I attempted to use filter mode, I'd get a full blast Ka alert about every 15-20 minutes or so. I couldn't deal with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freebird View Post
    Hey DJ I have been by that local 35.5 Suburban twice in the last week and my 78SE has been silent both times. I used to always pick him up rolling with his radar in constant on. Have you encountered him lately with his radar off?
    I don't think I've ever seen either of those two Suburbans without their radar on. I even detect them while they're parked for lunch. Hmmmm, the next time I see one of them, I'll let you know if they have their radar on or not. Those things are usually rolling 35.5 test sources.

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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

    I was afraid you were gonna say that. Now I am worried my unit is dead on 35.5. Gonna have to take out 2 units and hunt him down and do some testing.


    I was jazzed both times when I saw him. I was gonna drop in behind and test, but both times my unit was Silent.
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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Freebird View Post
    I was afraid you were gonna say that. Now I am worried my unit is dead on 35.5. Gonna have to take out 2 units and hunt him down and do some testing.
    I think your unit is a lemon swap it out ! One way to tell is buy a cheap whistler and then take it back. Whistlers park on 35.5 for a short time at start up. I'm not saying Mike B is wrong ! I'm just saying some things have issues. For example your car won't run right then you take it to a mechanic and it runs fine while he is driving it.
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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freebird View Post
    I was afraid you were gonna say that. Now I am worried my unit is dead on 35.5. Gonna have to take out 2 units and hunt him down and do some testing.
    I think your unit is a lemon swap it out ! One way to tell is buy a cheap whistler and then take it back. Whistlers park on 35.5 for a short time at start up.

    We have locals that run 35.5 and the Station is a few miles away. I will just cruise by and most of the time they have a unit left on in the parking lot. If it is dead I am gonna ask to swap it out since my performance has been eratic to say the least.

    I actually like my 78SE more than my STI due to its features I prefer. I wish it performed as well as my STI without the ka9 falsing.
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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Freebird View Post
    I was afraid you were gonna say that. Now I am worried my unit is dead on 35.5. Gonna have to take out 2 units and hunt him down and do some testing.
    I think your unit is a lemon swap it out ! One way to tell is buy a cheap whistler and then take it back. Whistlers park on 35.5 for a short time at start up.

    We have locals that run 35.5 and the Station is a few miles away. I will just cruise by and most of the time they have a unit left on in the parking lot. If it is dead I am gonna ask to swap it out since my performance has been eratic to say the least.

    I actually like my 78SE more than my STI due to its features I prefer. I wish it performed as well as my STI without the ka9 falsing.
    Once a month I play with my other Whistlers to see if Ka band is in working order on the Pro 78. Every major road trip i do a factory reset. I have a big issue with Laser cruise control falses here until i send it to Mike B for a fix. I run FILTER in the city and get maybe 1-2 Ka falses in 2 weeks with a population on 250,000 residents. I rarely see KA 9 falses ! FILTER 2 is very quiet !!! I have no drive time with the SE platform and its a totally different RD.
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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    Yeah, they perform poorly for me. I didn't get anything near what your videos show. I mean, not close. It's probably a combination of tons more traffic, terrain and location and a s**tload more false alerts. If I attempted to use filter mode, I'd get a full blast Ka alert about every 15-20 minutes or so. I couldn't deal with that.
    On average, I might get 1 or 2 of those Ka9 false alerts per day even when in default filter mode. Sometimes more, sometimes none. It's not bad considering that I've been putting a lot of unnecessary miles on my car conducting radar search. Maybe I should feel lucky that I do get good radar detections and a lot less false alerts than others.
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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Once a month I play with my other Whistlers to see if Ka band is in working order on the Pro 78. Every major road trip i do a factory reset. I have a big issue with Laser cruise control falses here until i send it to Mike B for a fix. I run FILTER in the city and get maybe 1-2 Ka falses in 2 weeks with a population on 250,000 residents. I rarely see KA 9 falses ! FILTER 2 is very quiet !!! I have no drive time with the SE platform and its a totally different RD.
    I normally would perform the factory reset just before I make a settings change as a precaution. The bad thing about it though is that I loose the stored LSID memory.
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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

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    Testing against that fixed 34.7 speed trailer (When I first got the 78Se) I tried all 3 filter modes and made several passes. I was unable to find any difference in performance between any of the 3 filter modes.
    Filter 2 does not eliminate those erratic Ka9 false alerts nor does using KaRSID instead of KaMaxID. I still can't tell if performance degrades when I use Filter 2. I've gotten great detections while using Filter 2.
    There may be something with your vehicle's electrical system thats setting off the Ka9 bursts.
    xtr690 does it while v1 was quiet.
    just happend to me.

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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

    Mike B. told us he can not filter out every leaky RD out there. There are many many cheap brands importing in to the United states. Cobras alone i see a average of 30 or more detectors a day including 5-10 year old units. Even the V1 falses to Cobras maybe not as bad as the Whistler. I'm sure Mike B has the same Ka false issue but chooses to leave Ka max on for better Ka detection and Filter mode for rapid response time ( one of the best in the industry) to Quick trigger or Instant on. I guess it depends in your area what other motorists are using such as very old Uniden Rd's,older Cobras,PNI detectors,Early warning, Older BEL's even leak K band. I also have noticed running beside another Whistler unit has set the other guys Whistler off cause you can see the LED periscopes light up at night. Maybe its our own brand clashing with each other? Try to locate the source or brand of RD that it lights up on Ka9 and maybe Mike B can put in in the the new REV upgrade. I can live with the falses. Maybe the source is Communication/microwave towers? Mine lights up on K band to towers around here in Filter mode.

    Mike B :
    KaMax may increase Ka alerts from some other detectors and that is why we left it a selectable option.

    I cannot get rid of all the radar detector falses unless I increase the validation time to 800ms or more like most of the other brands do.

    Filter 2 will validate in 500ms on average
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    Default Re: Pro 78se 35.5Ka video 9/3/2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Jag42 View Post
    Mike B. told us he can not filter out every leaky RD out there. There are many many cheap brands importing in to the United states. Cobras alone i see a average of 30 or more detectors a day including 5-10 year old units. Even the V1 falses to Cobras maybe not as bad as the Whistler. I'm sure Mike B has the same Ka false issue but chooses to leave Ka max on for better Ka detection and Filter mode for rapid response time ( one of the best in the industry) to Quick trigger or Instant on. I guess it depends in your area what other motorists are using such as very old Uniden Rd's,older Cobras,PNI detectors,Early warning, Older BEL's even leak K band. I also have noticed running beside another Whistler unit has set the other guys Whistler off cause you can see the LED periscopes light up at night. Maybe its our own brand clashing with each other? Try to locate the source or brand of RD that it lights up on Ka9 and maybe Mike B can put in in the the new REV upgrade. I can live with the falses. Maybe the source is Communication/microwave towers? Mine lights up on K band to towers around here in Filter mode.

    Mike B :
    KaMax may increase Ka alerts from some other detectors and that is why we left it a selectable option.

    I cannot get rid of all the radar detector falses unless I increase the validation time to 800ms or more like most of the other brands do.

    Filter 2 will validate in 500ms on average
    The V1 has the quickest response in the industry and I only see maybe one or two Ka band falses per month on my V1. VR seems to have figured out how to do it, why can't Whistler and Belscort figure it out? Belscorts have horrible response time, Whistlers false too much.

 

 

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