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Bel RX65 in Spain
From what I understand these bands are used in Spain .
Ku-band 13.45
K-band 24.15
Ka-band 34.36
Could someone confirm whether a USA Bel RX65 is set to cover these settings or will only a Bel RX65 purchased in Europe work.
Is the Bel RX-65 the best for Spain or will the Bel RX55 be as good.
Thanks
Re: Bel RX65 in Spain
Just a warning - some people may not like my response, but it is the truth.Originally Posted by embalse
The best detector against the threats you posted is the V1 in Euro mode hands down.
The V1 has the european mode which narrows the Ka detection to the 34.3 area which makes for early and fast warning against the 34.3 Ka band speed camera radar guns like Multanova.
The V1 hands down spanks the RX65 in Ku detection from what I have witnessed in person. The RX65 Ku detection is very weak compared to the V1's. The V1's Ku detection range is compareable to the V1's X band range. Here is a Ku band test. (At the bottom of the page.)
Please people, don't get carried away and think I'm RX65 bashing. I'm just being honest.
My second choice would be one of the Beltronics remote detectors that have the narrow band option, but I'm not sure if they have Ku detection. Maybe the Bel remote made for europe, 966??? Flitservice should be able to comment on the Bel remotes.
The 966 has Ku.
Basically your choices for those radar bands are the BEL Target Euro 550, the BEL 966r, and the V1.
Thanks Jimbonzzz, those were the Bel's I was thinking of.
I think his best option would be to try out all 3 of those detectors (if reasonably possible) so he can see for himself which one will do the best for him.
Parhaps "Carlos from Spain" will see this thread, I'm sure he would have a good recommendation. If not, maybe you could PM him...
The V1 Euro does cut most of the band and only use 34,36, but the problem appears that it's guardbands around it are very narrow and could potentially miss an out of tune Multanova.
Of course you may be interested to take a look at www.todoradares.com if you haven't already.
A Bel RX65 is a Bel RX65, they are all the same unless the firmware has been "hacked" to provide a narrow Ka capability.
That was the old versions.... According to VR as of 3.851 they supposably widened the guardband:
http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=14326
Dilip & nvr2fast were the ones that had the problem originally, but as far as I know they haven't tested a V1 3.851 or higher to see if it is no longer an issue....
Thanks for all the feed back.
I am still unsure if there is really a difference between a USA Bel and a euro Bel. On the websites in europe the companies imply that the Bels have been tuned for the European radar systems.
It seems to me a bit of marketing, as the bels in the states are much cheaper to buy, but I do not want to get one in the states only to find out later there is a difference.
Ok just re-read the posts.
You are all recommending the euro versions so there must be a difference. Please ignore the above post.
I'm sorry I missed this thread for some reason. Will do my best.
The frecuencies used in Spain are different than those, they are:
34,360GHz +/-100MHz (Multanova 6F, spanish made Cirano500)
24,115GHz +/-100MHz (Radarlux Tempocam)
35,500GHz +/-100Mhz (spanish made RAI2002)
By far the most comon is the Multanova. With that in mind, you absolutely need a narrow band 34,3GHz detector, otherwise wideband Ka detector will not give advance warning at all, specially in Spain were they set multanovas at min power. Hence StealthJammal's recomendation of the V1 better than the RX-65, since the RX-65 has no narrow Ka band and performs very poorly in Spain compared to the V1.
You have in portables the V1 in Euro mode and the Bel 550/330 Target Euro (both perform very similarly). And in remote versions the Bel975R, Bel996R (aka Target 660), RoadPilot Micro with radarhorn, and the Stinger DSI.
The first problem is that the remote versions give better warning distances against the multanova than the portable versions, and its very advisable to get the a remote. Also since use is ilegal, remote version stay well conceiled and hidden from view of any cop. Another thing to consider is that many cars in EU come standard with metallic treated atermic windows which ruins reception of radar by a portable, espeically French makers like Citroen and Renault. Remotes have no problem since the antena is hidden behind the grill or bumper.
Second problem is that while all of them have the 34,4Ka and K band, only the Bel975 has the 35,5GHz as well. However ALL 35,5GHz radars are fixed installation radars in overhead gauntry or roadside cabin, therefore detecting them via radar detector is not a must since you can be alerted to them via GPS warning system becuase their locations can be known and incorporated into the GPS warning system's database.
Which is my next point. In order to be fairly protected in Spain, you MUST combine a radar detector (rec remote version) with a GPS warning system, because we also have a few induction loop radars (Speedcurb, Gatso type36, Traffiphot, etc), and SPECS undergoing testing. Also fixed Multanovas are sometimes hard to detect with nenough anticipation by detectors with even the 34,3GHz narrow.
Therefore you need a detector for the 34,3GHz, most numerous, and use a GPS warning system for everything else (K band radars, 35,5Ghz, nduction loop, etc). GPS warning systems are 100% legal.
You have systems that combine GPS warning and radar detection all in one like the RoadPilot Micro or the Stinger DSI, or you can buy the two devices seperately like a detector here, and a GPS system there. The combo systems are the most effective, discreete and ergonomic choice but more expensive. I have a Stinmger DSI in one car (1800€) and a RoadPilot Micro with radarhorn in the other (1000€). I preffer the second personally.
The reason why the US-Bel are different from the Eu-Bels is that Bel does not sell directly in Europe. Target Automotive has an exclusive contract to sell Bel's products in Europe, and Target has modified them slightly to work better in EU (like against the Multnavova). Thats why the Bel975/RX-75 is sold in US and not in EU, while the EU version from Target is the Bel996R. Likewise with the Bel RX-65 vs Target's Bel 550.
Hope this helps.
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