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    Default Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    As languy tested pop on and it showed that v1 increase in range of ka band. I wonder if this would be same with bel escort rds. Does any body run with pop on rx65 or did they try this test if pop on affects ka band.

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    Default Re: Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior86 View Post
    As languy tested pop on and it showed that v1 increase in range of ka band. I wonder if this would be same with bel escort rds. Does any body run with pop on rx65 or did they try this test if pop on affects ka band.
    By default POP is turned off on the Bel/Escorts, I am almost certain it acts in a different manner than it does on the V1. What I mean by that is I think its primary function is to detect the slightest bursts and I think it will not help on reg I/O encounters. For the V1 it is on by default and it seems it has to be on to get the best performance. On the 2 units they act differently, on the Escorts you get a quick full blown alert, on the V1 it acts like any other alert so you will not know if POP was triggered. Most Escort users turn it off. I can say for reg use and reg I/O with a Escort or Bel and POP off you will pick up reg I/O just fine. As for the V1 I would think leaving POP on for reg I/O alerts would be useful.

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    Default Re: Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    POP on is going to drastically increase how prone you are to falsing from Cobras and other Uniden-ish detectors that park at 33.8 for 50ms. So far the only detector I've seen that effectively filters this out is the V1, which only occasionally "forgets" the Cobra and does a J alert.

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    Default Re: Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    i have a gx65 i recently contact bel about "pop" radar gun. they informed me that there are less than 2000 of those nation wide. so, about 0.02%, they say that majority of user wont encounter that type of radar at this time. so thats why they have it set off by factory default. they say that it will creat more false alert for K bands 9which is true, i tested it out, and they gave me more frequent false alert). that is due to detecting of other radar detectors which is not shield like the gx65.

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    Default Re: Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    I find all anti-POP arguments based on "It's used by less than 0.X% or you only have 0.0000Y% chance of encountering it" deeply flawed. I mean, think of all the precautions we take for extremely unlikely things -- what are the chances you'll get a ticket on a particular road if you just floor it for a couple seconds? What are the chances your house burns down and insurance plan pays off? Do you really need medical insurance to cover more than prescription costs?

    The real reason to turn POP off is on detectors that false significantly more with it on -- and that's a technical limitation with the detector, not because POP isn't worth detecting.

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    Default Re: Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    After reading about how the V1 showed increased range with pop on, I tried the same with my Belscorts and I got better warning than I'm used to for IO attacks on highways I normally travel on. Haven't been any issues yet with nearby cobras on the highway, but it the city, turning on pop is just asking for a headache.

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    Default Re: Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    If I'm not mistaken the GOL tests showed increased range when pop was turned off for the Belscorts. This is the opposite result for the V1's.

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    Default Re: Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Doh View Post
    If I'm not mistaken the GOL tests showed increased range when pop was turned off for the Belscorts. This is the opposite result for the V1's.
    GOL tests at slow speeds though; I think travelling faster amplifies the "choppiness" of distant signals and that's the effect in question when debating POP vs range on non-budget-class detectors (those actually reduce sensitivity in POP mode to reduce falsing)

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    Default Re: Does Pop on or off increase or decrease rx65 on ka band like it did for v1

    I had a GX, ran on both pop and with out. Pop on the GX I had Zero false alerts.

    I also saw no difference on detection with pop on or off, when I got tagged in my truck with instant on, pop was on.

    when I beat instant on on my motorcycle pop was off.

    The difference was reaction time , simply cant remove you foot from the accelerator to the brake pedal as quickly on a vehicle as a control covered MC rider.

    Both cases were indentical Leo right on top of me, got an alert 10 yards away both time, I'd already seen and reacting before alert came through in both cases.

    This was like a millisecond time lasp

 

 

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