STi-R PLUS Autolock Fail

[barryswanson]

Eversince owning my STi-R PLUS i have been letting autolock lock out falses and have never manually locked out a false.

Whilst driving today past a remote service station where there is only one door opener for miles around my STi-R PLUS remained silent and had the spinning stalleite icon. After i passed the service station my Redline went off on K band and sure enough there was a mobile gatso sitting there. The two signals also being more then 30mhz apart ( the door opener and camera car)

MY STi-R PLUS remaind silent with the satellite spinning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

About an hour later i passed another speed van in a simular sittiuation, around k band door openers. Sti-r PLUS remained silent satellite spinning etc. MY redline alerting me too the exact frequency the speed van is on.

So much for there truelock technology i paid nearly two thousand of my hard earned dollars for.

Any suggestions of what i should do or try differenty? And yes i have read the thread about truelock info tips and tricks about five hundred times.

Is my detector faulty or should i go and jam it up beltronics arse?

NOT HAPPY

[barryswanson]

I also forgot to mention that i went back past the locations where the vans where sitting and manually unlocked these location by holding in the mute button. The loctions unlocked and was able to be alerted to the vans.

But what happened after that is what really gave me the ****s aswell. I was about ten miles on the other side of town where autolearn had previously locked out false locations and now i was being alerted to them all over again!.

WTF is wrong with my detector?
I appologose if i come across pissed off but i am, big time.

I was thinking of wiping all my autolearnt locations with detector tools and starting fresh this time using manual lock out.
Any input guys would be greatly appreciated.
Thinking of emailing bell to with my concerns if thats a logical trhing to do or will i be given some generic answer from some robotic emailing answering machine thing/drone?

Did i also mention false advertising? lol

[snoopyc4]

WTF is wrong with my detector?

You aren't the only one that has had this problem:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEmPdZHvRO8]YouTube - Escort 9500ci and V1 3.872 vs. C/O K Band[/ame]

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...arn-issue.html

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...yet-again.html

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...ck-errors.html

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...me-ticket.html

This is a risk you run into when you run Truelock. I suggest you read this stickie:

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...fo-tricks.html

You may want to turn Autolearn off in these high false areas.

[barryswanson]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe a law suite for false advertising is what they need to lift there game .


TrueLock™ Signal Rejection permanently eliminates false alerts by location and frequency.
The Bel STi-R PLUS puts an end to false alarms. Its new GPS-powered TrueLock™ feature allows you to simply press the mute button a couple of times and never hear a radar-based automatic door opener or motion sensor again. Our patented design captures the location coordinates and the exact frequency of the signal and stores them in memory. Once stored, TrueLock™ will reject these signals, but is intelligent enough to warn you of a new or different signal in that same location. That's right, no more false alarms!


Day 1:
Lock out false alert
Day 2:
False alert signal is rejected
Day 3:
New signal detected

[DrCoke]

No different than when my 9500CI failed. Bought a V1 and 9500ci will be on ebay shortly.

[djrams80]

Manual lockout of the false alerts will not help. What failed you it TrueLock, not autolearn. TrueLock was designed for use in the US, where Belscort relies on police radar to have a signal strong enough signal to carry well past a lockout area. Those GATSOs are low powered, so they present a unique problem not normally seen here in the US. That's a rough one. If these mobile radar units are normally parked in false alert areas, TrueLock is probably too dangerous for you to use.

The second problem is probably due to signal frequency drift.

[xpert]

Hi barryswanson

Also I do live in EUROPE and own a STI-R Plus for about 10000miles now.
I 100% can confirm your experience, what at the end says, TrueLock is totally useless for europe, even worse, it's dangerous and you should not use it all all.

I tested it in detail for weeks and still do... wrote emails to Beltronics, but nobody replies, because STI-R plus doesn't exist, what a freaking joke!
You should write to Target Automotive, they escalate it to Beltronics and then they remember they have a STI-R plus.

What I can tell you for sure is, I tested the Stinger DSI, and the FalseListing (same as TrueLock) works 100times better than TrueLock. Much a smaller radius and multiple frequencies are stored individually in a very small range (+-single MHz). It even alerts you if you pass the same location from the different side, just false list it again. From my personal experience, DSI false listed a door sensor successfully and some days later I got alerted when I needed to be alerted.

Conclusion:
Sorry to have to tell you, but, TrueLock is S**** and FalseList is much much better and somehow useable, but still be careful you never know. Stinger is just miles ahaed for Beltronics with technology, customer support, etc.

Take care and hopefully sometime they understand the EUROPEAN market. Just imagine they would have to fight with well engineered RadarSystems like MultaRadar C... polarization... low power... from rear... just a real big JOKE!

xpert

[xpert]

just did some test a few days ago:
most difficult radar system to detect: MultaRadar C (horizontal polarzied supposed to be at 24.100GHz)
DSI (horizontal mounted) has almost the same range as STI-R Plus vertical mounted... now, what conclusion do we get out of it... ;-)

Too bad TrueLock is so badly implemented...

[barryswanson]

Manual lockout of the false alerts will not help. What failed you it TrueLock, not autolearn. TrueLock was designed for use in the US, where Belscort relies on police radar to have a signal strong enough signal to carry well past a lockout area. Those GATSOs are low powered, so they present a unique problem not normally seen here in the US. That's a rough one. If these mobile radar units are normally parked in false alert areas, TrueLock is probably too dangerous for you to use.

The second problem is probably due to signal frequency drift.

I'm hearing you bro, it's just a shame the so called marketing people at belscort bring something out APPARENTLY designed for the european/australian and new zeland market and it fails to do what its advertised as being able to do.

The stinger DSI is sounding better each day.

[barryswanson]

just did some test a few days ago:
most difficult radar system to detect: MultaRadar C (horizontal polarzied supposed to be at 24.100GHz)
DSI (horizontal mounted) has almost the same range as STI-R Plus vertical mounted... now, what conclusion do we get out of it... ;-)

Too bad TrueLock is so badly implemented...

I wonder if a software/firmware update is possible for the bel to fix this MAJOR FLAW?
Probably alot better and cheaper for belscort as a opposed to losing lots of informed customers buying a stinger DSI.

Come on Beltronics if your reading this. Man up and tell us what your excuse is and how you intend fixing it?