Frequency Display Models?

[jimbonzzz]

MPH Industries is the only mfr with POP.

If you see police using radar @ 33.8 GHz, then it is basically one of three units: Python, Enforcer, and BEE III. Enforcer and BEE III have POP capability.

Jim

[csteph]

MPH Industries is the only mfr with POP.

If you see police using radar @ 33.8 GHz, then it is basically one of three units: Python, Enforcer, and BEE III. Enforcer and BEE III have POP capability.

Jim

Your the man . Also are the frequencies for Python, Enforcer and BEE III different? or are all MPH radar guns @ 33.8 Ghz? I also read somewhere that Stalker makes a radar gun that can frequency hop. Is that possible?

i really want to master the frequency thing and run only in tech mode. Any good place to get more info?

[jimbonzzz]

Yes, the freqs for the Ka versions of the Python, BEE III, and Enforcer are all @ 33.8 GHz. But they'll all be slightly different because of drift. Anywhere between 33.7-33.9 is considered "in spec". But on the tech display, you have the margin of error of that to take into account as well, so it might display outside of these ranges even. It is conceivable that MPH products could display anywhere between 33.65-33.95 GHz on the techdisplay.

Stalker talked about developing a "frequency hopping" or "spread spectrum" gun in the early 90's, but it never happened. It IS possible to do, but I think they would have some difficulty bringing such a technology to market, because all of the jurisdictions alredy have judicial notice on the "regular" fixed-freq radar.

Be VERY careful with the "freq thing".
Some people think that they can reliably identify X and K band falses just by the frequency alone. But, if that were possible, they would make the detector so it doesn't alert to those freqs in the first place! Bottom line is, anything the detector alerts to is potentially police radar.

It is more useful on Ka band IMHO. You can get a good idea by the freq who makes the unit. And on the rare occasions that you might get Ka falses, you can sometimes tell because the frequency isn't around any of the main freqs for US radar. But again be very careful, as sometimes at first the techdisplay will lock on to a arbitrary frequency until it has a good fix.

Jim

[csteph]

Thanks Jim, I only plan to use Tech mode on highway when i know that anything i pickup is probably a police radar. i just want to get a better idea of the types of Ka radar guns used in my area and if i can tell if MPH specifically is used so i can determine if POP is used. (consider it doing my homework)

Excluding falses, I'm making the assumption that anything @ 33.xxx GHx is MPH anything @ 34.xxx Ghx is Stalker & all others are @ 35.xxx Ghz.
Is that too broad or too far from the truth?

Is K band more difficult to determine the mfr?

[jimbonzzz]

Excluding falses, I'm making the assumption that anything @ 33.xxx GHx is MPH anything @ 34.xxx Ghx is Stalker & all others are @ 35.xxx Ghz.
Is that too broad or too far from the truth?

Is K band more difficult to determine the mfr?

Yeah, that's a bit too broad. Maybe go at most +/- 150 MHz from the center freq, so:

33.65-33.95 MPH
34.55-34.85 Stalker
35.35-35.65 Kustom/Decatur/McCoys

There is no way to determine the manufacturer of K-Band units, ther are all 24.150 GHz +/- 100 MHz. So you'll see some different freqs, but that is only due to drift, not different freqs used by different MFRs.

Jim

[GTO_04]

In Indiana, there are far more Python I/II radars in service than there are BEEIIIs. They are all on 33.8 GHz though.

The Indiana State Police use Pythons for their Ka band radars.
The local cops that use Ka are seen more with Stalkers.

Are all the Stalkers on 34.7? Is it possible they have some at 33.8 or 35.5? That is interesting that they abandoned the frequency hopping scheme.

GTO_04

[carlito]

all stalkers are 37.7 freqs for KA band.

[csteph]

all stalkers are 37.7 freqs for KA band.

What ? :shock: Is that a typo :?:

[jimbonzzz]

Yeah, that's a typo.
ALL Ka Stalkers are @ 34.7 GHz.

[kpatz]

Sometimes when I encounter a Ka false (Cobra?) with my X50 it'll display an odd frequency, like 33.200 (which is outside the Ka band entirely), or odd freqs in the 34.xxx or 35.xxx range.

Also, sometimes the display will show the wrong frequency when it first picks up an alert, then it corrects itself after a second or two.