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    Do you get pop falsing on a rx65? Just past week I was travelling on a highway and my Ka sounded off, 500m down the road was a traffic police. I got Ka4 even within 20m range (kinda low ) and decided to turn off (illegal to use here). After 200m or so, I turned on my RD and within a few seconds I got POP alert. This is the first time I'm experiencing POP in the country (outside US) so is it a real POP or false? Also, do police have to explicitly turn on to detect RDs or does it show on their equipment that someone is using RD? Cheers!

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    Well they have to be relatively close to detect you with their RDD's, so you shutting down is a good thing.

    As for a POP false, that is unheard of! Never heard of a POP false, that could not happen. Just kidding/pulling your leg. It is not uncommon for a false POP. There are numerous reasons why it could happen. Perhaps the easiest explanation is that in definition of POP it is a very weak signal, think of a radio station cutting in and out of reception. Well the RD can pick up a ordinary radar ConstantOn or InstantOn, but the signal can be weak and chopped up that the RD interprets it as POP. Then you have other detectors setting of harmonics in the LO being misinterpreted as radar or POP becuase of the weak signal.

    POP is very rare. And as far as I know it's 2% existance is only in the US.

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    thanks for the info. If that's the case i guess the POP was caused by vechicles behind me causing the signal to go on and off . anyways, juz for information sake, is RDD a seperate device or does it come built-in with radar? will it go like *blink*blink* RD detected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huffie
    thanks for the info. If that's the case i guess the POP was caused by vechicles behind me causing the signal to go on and off :). anyways, juz for information sake, is RDD a seperate device or does it come built-in with radar? will it go like *blink*blink* RD detected? :lol:
    Naw, it goes more like beep beep...lol. There are basically two types of RDDs that I am aware of. They are VG-X (1,2,4) and the Spretre X (I, II, III). All new RDs advertise that they are VG-2 immune which means that VG-2 can't pick them up. However, there are some that say they are, but from tests that I have seen (like on Roy's site), there are a few that even VG-2 can pick up if they get close enough. The Whistler 1788 could be picked up by VG-2 over 1000 feet away.

    Currently there is only one RD that is immune to Spectre, and that is the STI Driver by Bel. However, Spectre may or may not be used in your area. Virginia doesn't have them yet (at least the State police don't)

    From what I understand, both VG-2 and Spectre are directional. Which means that the cop has to be pointing it in your direction to receive a signal.

    Look in the VG-2 and Sprectre forum for more info. Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by huffie
    thanks for the info. If that's the case i guess the POP was caused by vechicles behind me causing the signal to go on and off . anyways, juz for information sake, is RDD a seperate device or does it come built-in with radar? will it go like *blink*blink* RD detected?
    It is a seperate device and from what I understand normally specific police units only carry this only and it is their sole purpose on the road to catch you. One brand of RDD (radar detector DETECTORS) is called Spectre, the original Spectre had issues and was easily defeated, so it evolved into the Spectre II, and the latest development has evolved to the Spectre III.

    There is a old video buried in the forums somewhere, but a great video showing how the officers use these devices. Also a more easier find is to go to http://radarbuster.com and look up the Beltronics STi and Roy has some video of the RDD Spectre and shows how they are used.

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    Oh yeah, forgot to mention that, as far as I know, there isn't any integrated RDD, it is a separate unit that sticks on the windsheild like a RD does.

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    Has anyone experienced a true POP alert? (im sure someone has). anyways, i about 90% sure i have. i was on I-40(North Carolina), and i started getting a Ka alert, and it just kept getting stronger. Eventually i looked in my driver-side mirror and a state trooper was just cruising in the right lane with his radar on obvisously. Here is the odd part: right when i saw him in my mirror, i got he POP alert, but it didn't just say POP, rather it spelled it out? has anyone else seen this??? the screen on RX-65 actually went: [ P ] -> [ O ] -> [ P ] (those are suppose to be the three different screens, litterally spelling POP, a letter at the time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by huffie
    Do you get pop falsing on a rx65? Just past week I was travelling on a highway and my Ka sounded off, 500m down the road was a traffic police. I got Ka4 even within 20m range (kinda low ) and decided to turn off (illegal to use here). After 200m or so, I turned on my RD and within a few seconds I got POP alert. This is the first time I'm experiencing POP in the country (outside US) so is it a real POP or false? Also, do police have to explicitly turn on to detect RDs or does it show on their equipment that someone is using RD? Cheers!
    Hi
    sorry for not replying your email very busy with my works. Yes, I did encounter POP a few times seems like false alert. When Traffic Police are stationary on the shoulder lane most of the times radar gun are low power and you won't be surprised getting KA4 within 20m range. Similarly encounter nearing the fixed photo radar along Lentor I got KA3/4 within the 20/30m range. Used to travel to work by TPE once pick-up LASER approximately 500ft to 700ft instanly step on my brakes further up saw a traffic cop hiding underneath Ponggol Flyover. Fortunately I was behind a car instead he was the target luckily saved me a speeding ticket. Along Lorong Halus near the Paya Lebar Airport it's very common to pick-up laser and I knew they're garbage/junk alerts such as wind shears and air-carft euipments. I believed you would be able to tell the difference between real and false alarm thru experiences and you'll will appreciate the potentials of this RX 65. Just a word of caution KA alert can never, never be taken lightly you will never know where they are.. (traffic cop).
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