Sky

[Whytetygerwolf]

S2000 first choice, personally id find a miata rather than the sky or solstice. but deffinintly solstice over the saturn. i mean cmon, SATURN

[Sparkknocker]

Thanks guys...yeah that was my thought...I enjoy the Pontiac name over the Saturn name as well... Time to go car shopping :wink: thx fellas

[SmaartAasSaabr]

Wait for the turbo Solstice with the Saab engine block :wink:

[Arashi666]

Wait for the turbo Solstice with the Saab engine block :wink:

Thatll be fun!!!!!!!

[Sparkknocker]

Pontiac has the Soltice GXP...which is new for this year 260HP as opposed to the 177HP it had last year

260hp in a small car like that would rock and roll

http://www.pontiac.com/solstice/index.jsp

[Arashi666]

Pontiac has the Soltice GXP...which is new for this year 260HP as opposed to the 177HP it had last year

260hp in a small car like that would rock and roll

http://www.pontiac.com/solstice/index.jsp

and the S2000 pushes 240 (on the newer ones with the 2.2l F22C) or 250 (Older ones with the 2.0l F20C) HP, and thats N/A, strap a turbo on there and youre haulin


just my litle rant




I think that kind of power on that car is a bit overkill, you go plenty fast with the regular base models (Of course go with some "Luxury" options), so why sac a bit of mileage for a supercharged one

[SmaartAasSaabr]

The big difference is powerband. The turbo Solstice's torque curve is more or less "flat" along the revs. As a result you get nice linear horsepower increase as revs go up. The engine breathes very well at low speed due to the turbocharger (and variable valve timing and direct injection).

The S2000 motor however has only variable valve timing and the way it is set up, the torque output of the engine is pretty low. To make power you have to really rev the engine out, which can be fun. But this means that you have to "work" harder to go fast, not just push the pedal in any gear at any speed like the Solstice, but rather downshift, not one but two or three gears, maybe four This also means that you don't have the same kind of powertrain flexibility as the Solstice, which let's say can run in 5th gear from 20 mi/h to 120 mi/h, and have good power from say 40 to 120, whereas 5th will only give you acceleration from 80 to 120 in a S2k.

I still think a supercharger or turbo to boost low-end power on an S2000 would complement the engine nicely.

[trainedmonkey]

buy the sky and spend a few hundred to rebadge it to the opel gt (what the sky is sold as outside the us)

[Arashi666]

The big difference is powerband. The turbo Solstice's torque curve is more or less "flat" along the revs. As a result you get nice linear horsepower increase as revs go up. The engine breathes very well at low speed due to the turbocharger (and variable valve timing and direct injection).

The S2000 motor however has only variable valve timing and the way it is set up, the torque output of the engine is pretty low. To make power you have to really rev the engine out, which can be fun. But this means that you have to "work" harder to go fast, not just push the pedal in any gear at any speed like the Solstice, but rather downshift, not one but two or three gears, maybe four This also means that you don't have the same kind of powertrain flexibility as the Solstice, which let's say can run in 5th gear from 20 mi/h to 120 mi/h, and have good power from say 40 to 120, whereas 5th will only give you acceleration from 80 to 120 in a S2k.

I still think a supercharger or turbo to boost low-end power on an S2000 would complement the engine nicely.

I agree, STOCK, the S2000 LACKS ALL POWER in the low revs.....its pretty peaky, you do need something to compensate, but at the 7 or 8000 mark it just takes off...............it does need compensation at the low end

oh yeah and you forgot Hondas advantage over other Variable Valve Timing systems........the Electronic Lift Controller VTEC

[Arashi666]

buy the sky and spend a few hundred to rebadge it to the opel gt (what the sky is sold as outside the us)

but underneath it all its still a Saturn......id get the Pontiac