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    Haste makes waste: cutting speed boosts drivers' life expectancy: study
    By Sheryl Ubelacker Health Reporter (CP) – 1 day ago

    TORONTO — Every hour spent behind the wheel represents a 20-minute loss in life expectancy because of the risk of being involved in a fatal motor vehicle accident, say researchers, who calculate that even a slight reduction in speed by the average driver could save lives.

    "When drivers try to speed to get to their destination faster, they actually lose more time because the savings from faster travel are offset by the increased prospect of a crash," said lead investigator Dr. Donald Redelmeier, a staff physician at Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre in Toronto.

    "The 20-minute penalty for each hour spent driving ... is completely invisible to most drivers. But it is there lurking in the background, and at the end of the year, it adds up to about 45,000 deaths." (About 3,000 people in Canada and almost 42,000 in the United States die in motor vehicle accidents each year.)

    A study with co-author Dr. Ahmed Bayoumi recommends that easing back on the pedal even a bit could pay significant dividends over time.

    "The estimates suggest that slowing down slightly by about three kilometres an hour would cost average drivers about three minutes daily in trip time, but save them about three hours annually in overall survival," Redelmeier said.

    Applied at the population level, even a three km/h speed reduction could provide a huge benefit, he stressed. In the United States, for example, the slower speed would translate into about three million fewer crashes causing property damage, one million fewer crashes causing injury and 9,000 fewer deaths each year.

    "The point here is the average driver out there isn't so far off, they are just slightly off and they are off in the direction of going slightly too fast. So it boils down to a reminder to slow down, because haste makes waste."

    The study, published in Monday's issue of the Journal of Medical Decision Making, used a complex formula for estimating reduced life expectancy. It was based on a combination of computerized traffic modelling, U.S. national statistics covering driving on public roadways and the laws of physics.

    The computer models took into account average distances and the time that drivers in the United States travel daily, the number of annual crashes categorized as fatal, injurious and causing property damage, as well as the expected time losses due to crashes of varying severity.

    For any driver who wonders how such an estimate affects them personally, Redelmeier said the risk of a potentially deadly or injurious accident occurring exists even for the most mundane reasons for getting behind the wheel. Think of grocery shopping, a doctor's appointment or running the kids to school.

    "Even on a short trip, your risk of a serious crash is a function of two factors: No. 1 is your skill and No. 2 is the skill of every other driver out there on the road with you at the time," he said. "Even a short trip can put you into contact with 100 other drivers, any one of which can ruin your life forever."

    As a physician who cares for survivors of motor vehicle crashes brought to Sunnybrook's trauma ward, Redelmeier can cite some grim statistics.

    "For every person who died in a motor vehicle crash, there are about 50 other people who are left permanently disabled," he said, including those with spinal cord and traumatic brain injuries or chronic pain syndromes from multiple fractures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    Haste makes waste: cutting speed boosts drivers' life expectancy: study
    By Sheryl Ubelacker Health Reporter (CP) – 1 day ago


    Copyright © 2010 The Canadian Press. All rights reserved.

    There are multiple issues with this:


    • It is wrong.
    • I read it faster and it is wrong.
    • I read it slower and it was still wrong.
    • Einsteins theory of relativity says it is wrong. The faster you move the less time you experience and therefore comparatively you live longer than those that do not move.
    • There has never been a case of a stationary vehicle directly causing a fatality so therefore motion is a prerequisite to generally all traffic based fatalities.
    • It is against site policy to post full articles and that is wrong
    • Oh, I almost forgot. It is wrong.

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    I agree this is a bunch of crap, and its has some printing at the bottom that should be respected. Thats about the only part of the article that has any truth. (copyright part)

    1. Its a fact that the accident rate where Red light cameras have been installed have actually caused more accidents then were ever at the same intersection before.

    2. When the raised the speed limit years ago, a bunch of individuals stated the same.. "more people are going to die with the higher speed limit"..Now we know that the number of fatal deaths dropped when the speed limit was raised.

    3. The death rate for fatal accidents has dropped last year and has been dropping.

    4. And the most important one of all *****

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    TORONTO — Every hour spent behind the wheel represents a 20-minute loss in life expectancy because of the risk of being involved in a fatal motor vehicle accident, say researchers, who calculate that even a slight reduction in speed by the average driver could save lives.
    The first paragraph contradicts itself:
    If it is true that "every hour spent behind the wheel represents a 20-minute loss in life expectancy because of the risk of being involved in a fatal motor vehicle accident", then one should drive as fast as possible in order to reach the destination more quickly, thereby reducing the amount of time behind the wheel and the associated risks. But the article recommends the opposite

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    Quote Originally Posted by STiMULi View Post
    • Einsteins theory of relativity says it is wrong. The faster you move the less time you experience and therefore comparatively you live longer than those that do not move.
    You are not moving at speeds which have any measurable impact on time. The atomic clocks in GPS satellites have a 7 microsecond per day drift and the satellites circle the Earth at 8666.04 mph.

    That means it would take slightly more than 142,857 days for the atomic clocks on those satellites to experience a complete 1 second drift. To achieve the same 1 second of relative time drift at 80 mph would take 15,475,055 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbonzzz View Post
    The first paragraph contradicts itself:
    If it is true that "every hour spent behind the wheel represents a 20-minute loss in life expectancy because of the risk of being involved in a fatal motor vehicle accident", then one should drive as fast as possible in order to reach the destination more quickly, thereby reducing the amount of time behind the wheel and the associated risks. But the article recommends the opposite
    Mathematically the only way that contradicts itself is if you exceed the PSL by at least 33.33% (20 minutes of every hour is 33.33%). For instance, 90 mph in a 60 mph zone.

    I believe there is a huge statistical flaw in the article, and I suspect there's money behind this study (ie, the government gave grant money so they could "prove" speed cameras were "good"). Any good statistician wouldn't put their name on this because one simple factor: it does not take into account which of the deaths and accidents were caused by speed being a primary or secondary factor.

    The only way to properly do a study like this would be to fit thousands of vehicles with GPS tracking systems (actually, a simple speed logger like Carchip would be sufficient) over a period of years to determine the average survival rate of individuals when compared to speed.

    I'm willing to give a fundamental nod that you take a risk in decreased lifespan the faster you go, because although statistically speed is not the primary reason for death in the majority of accidents, it is in some of them. But, I also believe since speed is not the majority "primary" factor that their 20 minute conclusion is far too large a number. Its only logical. Its why one needs to be smart, not stupid, about when and where you speed. Not in traffic, not where there are pedestrians, not in areas where there are blind intersections, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STiMULi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    Haste makes waste: cutting speed boosts drivers' life expectancy: study
    By Sheryl Ubelacker Health Reporter (CP) – 1 day ago


    Copyright © 2010 The Canadian Press. All rights reserved.

    There are multiple issues with this:


    • It is wrong.
    • I read it faster and it is wrong.
    • I read it slower and it was still wrong.
    • Einsteins theory of relativity says it is wrong. The faster you move the less time you experience and therefore comparatively you live longer than those that do not move.
    • There has never been a case of a stationary vehicle directly causing a fatality so therefore motion is a prerequisite to generally all traffic based fatalities.
    • It is against site policy to post full articles and that is wrong
    • Oh, I almost forgot. It is wrong.
    You missed one or two.

    It is extremely wrong.

    And the stress of slow people in front of you is worse yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager7 View Post

    And the stress of slow people in front of you is worse yet.
    So very true especially people that refuse to relinquish the passing lane!!

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    All I read was "might" and "probably." Those two words say "opinion" rather than "fact."

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    Typical emotional "feel good" crock o' crap argument with no scientific merit. The only control we over other idiots behind the wheel is defensive driving. Common sense goes a long way in all cases. I'm 55yrs old and have 1 speeding ticket (35 years ago) and 1 minor fender bender accident (not my fault). I routinely drive 10+ MPH >PSL when conditions permit.

 

 

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