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TSI+WRX makes a couple great points. It would be wise to read and to heed them in the future.
Having just gotten a V1, I've found myself being even more alert to police than when I was without it. Allen's comment about the radar detector being a tool is the most true statement on this board. It is a tool to use, abuse it and it will come back and bite you.
A laser jammer with a combination of cr8apl8/veil would probably be your best bet to defeat a laser encounter.
but then they can get you with the instant on .....
Someone needs to go back to grade school apparently. LMAO :roll:Originally Posted by repeter
Baby steps!
:shock: :shock: :shock:
HE USED "S"ES
He capitalizes letters in the middle of sentences
He replaces several "S's" with "Z"
He puts commas where they're not needed.
Must I go on...?
Wow it feels like one of those "fix it grammar sections" back in high school. :wink:
As for the tread; it almost 100% gaurentee it was laser if he told you that he got a reading at 800ft.No radar unit will tell an officer this. Laser is really hard to detect and near impossible, except for the V1. Not glorifying the V1 but its a proven fact. I did however recieve a ticket with my X50 rev 6.1 back in November. Instant On 34.7 Stalker DSR 2X Ka-band. Only one blip and i was toast.
Look on your ticket and see if it states what was used. There is a box
that they will fill in that states what Speed Enforcement device was used
to obtain the speed.
This should let you know if it was Lidar.
To me, this sounds like a classic Lidar ambush.
Your detector wouldn't have pick it up.
Time for a Jammer.
Ok first off let's stop putting people down on how they spell, there are tons of people who cannot read or spell so, don't like it then go somewheres else...
As for the encounter with your x50, my x50 has served me superbly against laser.... and has also NOT alerted at times as well....Theres a type of laser gun that the x50 has probs with I forget what one....The x50 in the sun and heat might have probs as well against laser as the other dude said ..My laser alerts 47 out of 50 times against laser...I have gotten good scatter laser alerts as well with my x50...I hear laser jammers don't all work that well either as there isn't a way to test a laser jammer system plus there somewhat difficult to install I heard....I will buy a laser jammer one day when I think its worth it...As of right now I get hit with laser once every 3 months which is not worth the amount a jammer costs...
So who is to say you got hit with laser anyway...
cya
usually when you note the distance on the citation (i.e. 800ft) that means laser (since it displays the distance along with the speed). never seen a radar citation noting the distance.
Catching scatter/pass-through/etc. is mostly luck. Like Mike Valentine cited, there's two main mounts - high and low, and you take your chances either way. Similarly, a mid-mount offers a middle-road between these compromises, but is itself not a sure-fire solution. It's pretty much personal-preference, in terms of what risks you believe are most acceptable as well as what your end-preferences are, that will dictate which mounting location you choose.
^ This is not true.I hear laser jammers don't all work that well either...
While most of today's "good" LED-based jammers are really only truly effective at "mid" ranges, combined with other favorable enforcement circumstances (i.e. a not overly large vehicle - or, alternatively, sufficient heads to cover the necessary real-estate) and with certain enforcement hardware, it can be said that most of today's "good" diode-based jammers are exceedingly good at their jobs.
The GOL tests, as well as other independent hobbyist video- and verbal/written documentation easily proves this to be true.
This concern is typically only valid when true JTG performance is sought (either for academic/hobbyist purposes or having arisen from a need to defeat specific local enforcement habits), or, alternatively, when a vehicle that is either of excess frontal area or which presents with very difficult hard-points is in-question. In the vast majority of cases, on average-sized vehicles with average hard-points, where "slow-to-reasonable/PSL" is all that's necessary, such testing isn't always needed.as there isn't a way to test a laser jammer system
This is totally not true.plus there somewhat difficult to install I heard....
Typically, the only difficulty encountered by the novice DIY installer is the question of how to pass wiring through the vehicle firewall. With sufficient research (of one's own vehicle-specific on-line support Forum and/or by using vehicle service manuals often available at your local public library) and patience, and just a minimum of mechanical know-how and basic hand-tools, one could easily accomplish such installs to excellent results.
Near-professional quality results are often achieved by the repeat DIY installer, and for those who are fond of self-wrenching and/or have experience in the maintenance of their vehicles, the firewall pass-through is very, very easy. Similarly, to those who've worked with vehicle ICE and/or have had other hobby experience involving either basic electronics and/or painting/finishing of small plastic/polymer components, a true-professional level installation can *easily* be had.
Once every three months indeed would make having to carve out such a large chunk of your budget quite hard to swallow.I will buy a laser jammer one day when I think its worth it...As of right now I get hit with laser once every 3 months which is not worth the amount a jammer costs...
But, on the other hand, you do have to consider that with so few encounters, your own response to such alerts - as well as the odds that such an encounter may not present in your favor - may not be ideal.
Factor that into the equation of both the dollar-amount of the citation, as well as any potential implications it may carry for your insurance premiums, and I think you can readily see why some of us who also face LIDAR on such an infrequent basis have invested so heavily on this rather extreme level (and price-tag) of protection.
Thanks for the reply...wrx...
I remember hearing people say they had to adjust there laser jammer heads a few times, just wasn't sure if they were 100percent reliable...
Thanks now I understand the laser jammers are 100 percent reliable.
Sorry bout going off topic...
laser jammers may be "100% reliable" but they are NOT 100% effective
http://guysoflidar.com/march-2007/la...mmer-test.html
^ +1.
And even with what should be a "100% effective" jammer, there can still exist the off-chance encounter situation/scenario that could prove to be an unexpected punch-through.
IMveryHO, there can never be 100% effectiveness. Yes, quantitatively, 100% effectiveness can be achieved and should be able to be tested for, but in the real-world, I don't think that such results could possibly carry through *every* time an enforcement scenario is encountered, given their inherent variability.
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Stealth 795 - No problem! Glad to be of-service.
Also, please note that my post was not meant to say that jammers are 100% "reliable," either. These items, particularly the exterior "heads" themselves, are constantly exposed to the hazards of everyday driving, and thus can and will suffer occasional break-downs just as well as any other mechanical/electrical item could/would.
Although the current-market items are exceedingly durable and reliable, they are by no means indestructible nor infallible.
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