9500i theory...

[thestaton]

I've been putting a lot of thought into why the 9500i did great on the GoL testing course, but in the real world I've never been able to mimic those results. Where as with the V1 I can walk away from a test and agree that's what I would get in the real world.

Is it possible that it takes the 9500i longer to process signals than previous generations, due to the GPS and advanced algorithms for detecting false alerts?

In the controlled tests we never go above 20MPH thus giving the detector an easier time to pick up a stationary object. Where as in the real world I'm traveling 75+ MPH and the majority of the time the officer is not stationary they are moving as well.

This is just simply a theory and I have zero proof other than just applying common sense.

[MEM-TEK]

Hi thestation,

I exclusively used my 9500i during the day while on my recent trip from GA to TX and back, generally driving around 75mph as well. I had numerous long range alerts for Ka radar, plus that one amazing Ka alert in Birmingham where the officer was parked next to a high concrete retaining wall around a sharp curve. Except for the ramp-up issues, I found that my 9500i consistently performed as well as my STi as far as Ka band is concerned.

Is it possible that it takes the 9500i longer to process signals than previous generations, due to the GPS and advanced algorithms for detecting false alerts? I suppose so, but can't really say since I shipped off my 9500i for a new flash to fix the ramp-up issues. It will be interesting to observe my 9500i's performance after I get it back from Escort. I hope that the new flash simply fixes the ramp-up issue and doesn't have other hidden changes which will affect my 9500i's performance. I will definitely let you know if I notice anything different about my 9500i's performance (good or bad) once I get it back.

Best regards,

--Michael

[KaPro]

I'm still waiting for mine!!!!!!!!! Freakin snow storm!!

[CJR238]

I had always thought the GPS/Voice alert affected the ramp up. I don’t think its any coincidence that after 4-5beeps voice alert & auto mute kicks in and that’s where the middle part of the ramp up is.
That being said I haven’t seen any real difference in detection range/distance at high or low speeds. However the ramp up audio certainly changes your perception of that distance.
Obviously at higher speeds your detection distance should be the same as slower, but the time receiving that alert is relative to how fast you’re going. You have a longer alert time going slower than what you would have going 3 times that speed (75mph), yet the alert distance is exactly the same.
As a side note, from my understanding, moving radar detection range is almost 1/2 of what stationary radar is in general.

[bigalinwv]

Your post is EXACTLY why I said we need a REAL WORLD GOL test.......

but here's what you said

I'm good with how we do it now, but is there really a need to ever test detectors for the next couple of years? Every test ends up exactly the same, with the V1 dominating, then the Belscorts fighting for anything else that matters.

Real world is just to dangerous for me.

Now you are posting a thread saying exactly why I thought a real-world test is needed. :?:

[thestaton]

it's not practical to do a real world test at speed.

[CJR238]

IMHO, the GOL tests are a point of reference and have minimal baring to real life encounters because there are so many variables. All we can do is add there information from there tests and add our real world encounters to deduce our own opinion.
There are pros and cons for a non profit group testing products. Not enough funds to do full complete testing but certainly are doing it for the fun or passion.

When it comes down to it the best RD is the one you like and the one that provides what you need. No GOL test results should force you to make a decision one way or another, its just to be used as a point of reference.

1mi alert is 1mi alert whether its 5 seconds or 30 seconds.

[KnightHawk]

Hi Stat, it is very hard to duplicate real world scenarios and your environment on a real world scenario changes so quickly that you get different results within seconds. Speed, antenna angle, reflections and objects between radar antenna and RD are notorious for affecting the RD's performance. Real world scenarios just can't mimic a controlled test.

My experience in testing RD's in real world scenarios is basically using both the V1 and the 9500i. That to me is the only way to test it contrary to popular belief that using both can affect the others performance. Case and point regarding why i believe that it is the only way. The detector that "always alerts first" is usually the winner. By doing both at the same time, the RD's are subjected to the same factors in that particular encounter.

Way back when i was testing the 9500i vs. V1, the 9500i always beat my V1 in most encounters with 35.5ghz. In other frequencies, the V1 beats the 9500i. During these tests, i was also able to conclude that 9500i did better with 35.5 off axis. I do believe that there is filtering with the Bel and Escort products and this is where i believe the difference is when it comes to detecting faint signals where the V1 has an edge and we can see this report from Michael B's sensitivity test. We can also see the same results when doing quick trigger pulls where the Belscort's are silent and the V1 detects the signal doing the test at 10-15 feet from the radar detector. All the results where the same whether GPS was on or off when you put it in HWY mode.

[€]

Sorry for little off, but you CAN'T off GPS in 9500i. What you did was just setting off TrueLock FILTER (sat icon). The GPS works then in background and is used to showing speed in SpeedDisplay mode and to regulate a sensitivity (when in A mode).

[CJR238]

Sorry for little off, but you CAN'T off GPS in 9500i. What you did was just setting off TrueLock FILTER (sat icon). The GPS works then in background and is used to showing speed in SpeedDisplay mode and to regulate a sensitivity (when in A mode).

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