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  1. #21
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    Default Re: 9500ci - It's safer to LockOut by Autolearn than by hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi666 View Post
    but at nearly 3 times the cost it damn well better be worth it, I mean GOD that thing is expensive

    If I could buy one at a lower price by getting rid of the ZR4's, I'd do it.

    quick question about frequency drift/lockout/autolearn. Someone correct me if Im wrong.

    If you drive by a false alert 3 times, it will lock it out. If that false alert frequency starts to drift, the CI will alert to it again and then lock it out again after 3 passes. When it locks it out the second time, does it erase the frequency block from the first time it locked it out? If not, and the false source keeps drifiting, pretty soon it may have a large amount of the K band range locked out and may not alert to a real threat.

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    Default Re: 9500ci - It's safer to LockOut by Autolearn than by hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyinZX-10R View Post
    If I could buy one at a lower price by getting rid of the ZR4's, I'd do it.

    quick question about frequency drift/lockout/autolearn. Someone correct me if Im wrong.

    If you drive by a false alert 3 times, it will lock it out. If that false alert frequency starts to drift, the CI will alert to it again and then lock it out again after 3 passes. When it locks it out the second time, does it erase the frequency block from the first time it locked it out? If not, and the false source keeps drifiting, pretty soon it may have a large amount of the K band range locked out and may not alert to a real threat.
    The original lockout will eventually be erased, but I have not figured out what it takes to unlock it, meaning, how many passes or days or what. I did some testing a while back trying to figure this out, but I failed:

    http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...lock-test.html

    http://www.escortradar.com/pdf/9500ciOwnersManual.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by 9500ci Owner's Manual

    AutoLearn/Auto UnLearn
    (X and K-bands only)
    AutoLearn constantly analyzes all
    incoming signals as you drive. If the same
    signal is detected at the same location
    approximately (3) three times, the 9500ci
    will automatically lock it out as a false
    alarm. Once this signal has been locked
    out, no alert will be given at this location
    unless it’s a new or different signal.
    Once a signal has been locked out and
    stored in memory, the 9500ci will also
    automatically unlock a signal if it is not
    present the next time you pass that
    location. This reduces the chances of
    locking out a real threat.




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    Default Re: 9500ci - It's safer to LockOut by Autolearn than by hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyinZX-10R View Post
    If I could buy one at a lower price by getting rid of the ZR4's, I'd do it.

    quick question about frequency drift/lockout/autolearn. Someone correct me if Im wrong.

    If you drive by a false alert 3 times, it will lock it out. If that false alert frequency starts to drift, the CI will alert to it again and then lock it out again after 3 passes. When it locks it out the second time, does it erase the frequency block from the first time it locked it out? If not, and the false source keeps drifiting, pretty soon it may have a large amount of the K band range locked out and may not alert to a real threat.
    Just befriend a dealer and the CI will be totally worth it. Now if i can sell my new 9500I for list price i only need to throw in a few more and i got the new CI.

    Well from my understanding yes. If a false alert frequency starts to drift, the CI will alert to it again and then lock it out again after 3 passes. When it locks it out the second time, at some point in those 3 pases it will erase the old frequency block from the first time it locked it out.

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    Default Re: 9500ci - It's safer to LockOut by Autolearn than by hand.

    I just skimmed the CI's owners manual and it sounds impressive.
    Now I just have to figure out which bank im going to hit to pay for it.

    I wish we could fast forward to 2011 to see the model with a rear antenna and directional arrows.

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    Default Re: 9500ci - It's safer to LockOut by Autolearn than by hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    Have you done any testing to prove this?
    I can't proof it as "Proofessor" since have no such great microwave transmitter.

    It's only based on my observations of 9500ci behaving compared to 9500i.
    When I had notice "drift" at 9500i, frequency of one source changed for example from 24.118 to 24.148. Now, when the same source drifts at 9500ci, frequency change from 24.119 to only 24.123.

    And now - isn't it a proof of both:
    - narrower f-blocks of 9500ci
    - drift is a detector's accuracy problem, not real frequency shift of a source?

    It's also interesting that sometimes variation has 4 and sometimes 5 MHz (or maybe even 6 MHz). It looks for me like the closest to center of K band frequency is, the smaller blocks are. But it's hard to regard without special hardware.

    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    I know the professor has a K band transmitter that has adjustable frequecy control. I'd love to see this tested. Professor, could you do me a favor and purchase a $1600 RD, then spend hours and hours of your valuable time, just so I can know if this 4-5MHz block theory is true? Then, once you get those results, could you spend another couple of days of your valuable time doing the same thing for X band? That would be swell.
    Help us Obi Wan... sorry... Proofessor, you're our only hope

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    Default Re: 9500ci - It's safer to LockOut by Autolearn than by hand.

    Someone send me a 9500ci, and I'll check it out

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    Default Re: 9500ci - It's safer to LockOut by Autolearn than by hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbonzzz View Post
    Someone send me a 9500ci, and I'll check it out
    Alright happya$$, time for you to take a trip to Michigan, for research sake.

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    Default Re: 9500ci - It's safer to LockOut by Autolearn than by hand.

    Has anyone just asked Escort? An engineer not a sales person.

 

 

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