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    Question 9500ix auto lockout

    Correct me if i'm wrong but 9500ix auto lockout works by locking out a frequency if it's the same three times at the same location. The 9500ix locked out a false k alert which is 24.147. But LEO use 24.150 frequncy in my city. I'm just afraid that a LEO can be sitting there and shooting my car and i wouldn't get a alert.

    any suggestions??? I was thinking about turing off the auto learn?

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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    I have every false alert locked out and don't have a problem. The reason for this is range. The lockout radius of the false alert should be pretty small. The police radar will most likely be detectable way outside the lockout radius. So, say the LEO is sitting in that spot running K band. Depending on terrain, your 9500ix should alert for a good mile or more while approaching that lockout, then go silent once you've reached that lockout radius. Once you leave the lockout radius, it might alert again.

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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    Yep, thats the way the 9500ix handles false alerts. 24.147 is really close (too close) to 24.15, so I would unlock that particular location. Once your 9500ix has learned and locked out most of the false alert locations, I would turn AutoLearn off and then manually unlock specific locations where the door openers are really close to the road since door openers which are really close to the road can produce a very strong alert which would cause the 9500ix to set a much larger lockout radius. A large lockout radius obviously is risky.

    Here is how, using my 9500ci, I manually handle door openers which are located right next to the road. The same method works with the 9500ix too. Stand-alone pharmacy chain stores are notorious for having their entrances (and thus their door openers) located almost at the sidewalk! You need to manually handle these locations yourself using the following method:

    1. If that location was already locked out by AutoLearn, then I unlock it.

    2. I approach the location and manually lock it out when its signal strength reaches 1/2 of max strength.

    3. I then drive past the location for 1 mile and then power cycle my 9500ci using its power button in order to commit the lockout data to memory.

    4. I then drive back towards the location and lock it out from this driving direction when the signal reaches 1/2 signal strength, and then repeat step 3.

    The end result is that you have manually set two small lockout radii near the strong door opener source. You may get very weak alerts when approaching this strong roadside door opener from either direction, but then the GPS icon will start spinning and should keep spinning as you pass the door opener's location. So, as you can see, two very small lockout radii are a lot better than one huge lockout radius which might have been set if you had simply let AutoLearn handle this really strong microwave door opener source which is located so close to the roadway.

    Finally, there is no guarantee that a police K band radar gun will transmit on 24.15. Legally it can transmit on anything from 24.05 to 24.25. And remember that there are some old K band radar guns which used 24.125. These old guns can legally transmit on anything from 24.025 to 24.225.

    So, as you can see, the big key in using TrueLock is to make sure that a really large lockout radius isn't accidentally set by AutoLearn or by yourself when manually using TrueLock by making the mistake of locking out a false alert which registers close to full signal strength. The idea, no matter what, to make sure that the lockout radii are small!


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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    I have every false alert locked out and don't have a problem. The reason for this is range. The lockout radius of the false alert should be pretty small. The police radar will most likely be detectable way outside the lockout radius. So, say the LEO is sitting in that spot running K band. Depending on terrain, your 9500ix should alert for a good mile or more while approaching that lockout, then go silent once you've reached that lockout radius. Once you leave the lockout radius, it might alert again.
    X2...
    Almost every time i have had a Lock out and a LEO running the same frequency i have gotten some alert at some point before the lock out.
    IMO the real High Risk lock out is where a LEO's radar would be limited in range do to terrain or obstructions.

    Quote Originally Posted by MEM-TEK View Post
    Yep, thats the way the 9500ix handles false alerts. 24.147 is really close (too close) to 24.15, so I would unlock that particular location. Once your 9500ix has learned and locked out most of the false alert locations, I would turn AutoLearn off and then manually unlock specific locations where the door openers are really close to the road since door openers which are really close to the road can produce a very strong alert which would cause the 9500ix to set a much larger lockout radius. A large lockout radius obviously is risky.

    Here is how, using my 9500ci, I manually handle door openers which are located right next to the road. The same method works with the 9500ix too. Stand-alone pharmacy chain stores are notorious for having their entrances (and thus their door openers) located almost at the sidewalk! You need to manually handle these locations yourself using the following method:

    1. If that location was already locked out by AutoLearn, then I unlock it.

    2. I approach the location and manually lock it out when its signal strength reaches 1/2 of max strength.

    3. I then drive past the location for 1 mile and then power cycle my 9500ci using its power button in order to commit the lockout data to memory.

    4. I then drive back towards the location and lock it out from this driving direction when the signal reaches 1/2 signal strength, and then repeat step 3.

    The end result is that you have manually set two small lockout radii near the strong door opener source. You may get very weak alerts when approaching this strong roadside door opener from either direction, but then the GPS icon will start spinning and should keep spinning as you pass the door opener's location. So, as you can see, two very small lockout radii are a lot better than one huge lockout radius which might have been set if you had simply let AutoLearn handle this really strong microwave door opener source which is located so close to the roadway.

    Finally, there is no guarantee that a police K band radar gun will transmit on 24.15. Legally it can transmit on anything from 24.05 to 24.25. And remember that there are some old K band radar guns which used 24.125. These old guns can legally transmit on anything from 24.025 to 24.225.

    So, as you can see, the big key in using TrueLock is to make sure that a really large lockout radius isn't accidentally set by AutoLearn or by yourself when manually using TrueLock by making the mistake of locking out a false alert which registers close to full signal strength. The idea, no matter what, to make sure that the lockout radii are small!

    X2. I'm going to use AutoLock for a month or two then turn it off and unlock some High Risk areas i would have concern with. The only thing i will add to the above is you need 1/10mi of no alert after the initial alert to help keep the locked out radius small and commit the lockout data to memory.
    Last edited by CJR238; 02-28-2009 at 04:42 PM.

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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    I guess i will turn of auto learn and do lock outs manually using the MEM-TEK advice. Usually i have it in spec mode but i guess before i lock out i will change to bar graph for signal strength.
    So i know how strong is the signal.

    Also, what do u guys suggest i drive in highmode or auto mode. Currently i just use auto mode.

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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    Most of the time I use Auto Sensitivity mode while driving around my small town. The reason is that its not safe for me to lock out two particular areas in my town which have at least a half dozen K band door openers located within 1/8 of a mile of each other. But that is the way it is in some small towns -- a ton of businesses all clustered together in the same location.

    On the other hand, my dad lives in a much larger town and I have nearly everything in his town locked out. His town has three specific locations with door openers which are located right next to the roadway. So for those three locations I used my lockout method as described above. Other than those locations I let my 9500ci learn where all the other false alerts were.

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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    I have every false alert locked out and don't have a problem. The reason for this is range. The lockout radius of the false alert should be pretty small. The police radar will most likely be detectable way outside the lockout radius. So, say the LEO is sitting in that spot running K band. Depending on terrain, your 9500ix should alert for a good mile or more while approaching that lockout, then go silent once you've reached that lockout radius. Once you leave the lockout radius, it might alert again.
    Totally agree with this. I have a couple of very strong K band doors locked out in nearly the same spot. 9500ix alerts before I get to them and then stops in the lockout area.

    On the 5 north through San Diego there are two weak K's locked ... 9500ix never alerts. Perfect.

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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    Man. TrueLock gets no respect. We get new members, at least weekly, with stories of I/O or laser tickets, yet what everyone seems to fear the most is TrueLock, which has no known failures. The odds of someone getting a ticket due to TrueLock are really low. The odds of that person being YOU is even smaller than that, yet people around here spend so much time worrying about how to reduce the chances of getting a ticket because of TrueLock. The preventative effort far outweighs the statistical risk. Doesn't make sense.

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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    I might be a new member but I brought up this issue because the autolock locked out k false at a gas station. Yesterday i saw a LEO and no alert. You might be saying it's I/O or he didn't use the radar. I had my friend following behind me and he speed up to catch up to me and the LEO clocked him he got a 7 over the PSL ticket. That's why i'm littled paranoid.

    Also, how do u unmark/undo a autolock to falses. The autolearn locked out the false alert and if i go in the lockout area the satelite icon spins and i press "mark" it's making the area. I just want to undo the auto lockout. I also tried factory reset didn't work.

    Thank's in advance

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    Default Re: 9500ix auto lockout

    To unlock a location, just tap the mute button while the GPS icon is spinning. Your RD will ask if you want to unlock this location. To do so, simply tap the mute button a second time.

 

 

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