9500ix True Lock ERRORS

[OldGoat]

like the detector itself; TrueLock is a tool

Perhaps our expectations are a bit unrealistic. The purpose of TrueLock is the reduction of THE ANNOYANCE of falses thru the establishment a history*, NOT a more discriminating detection process. This is why there are choices of operating mode, "how much awareness do you want to surrender to the technology?" as errors are destined to occure.

Having to eagle-eye a VERY SMALL icon to see EXACTLY when it stops 'spinning' is hardly adequate warning for impending DISASTER. Given the 'low resolution' of the database, a subtle audio warning should be an option.

Auto-Sensitivity is a great feature, altho not suitable for Blazing thru a school zone as the speed threshold for transition to 'all out sensitivity' is way above any school zone speed limit. For average driving, especially in a new area, it's a very useful feature.

IMHO: mastering, and taking full advantage of, all of the 9500's capabilities results in way more brain-cell usage than the original(as reported by V-1) falses themselves . . . so consistant[Linear] is the V-1, that deviations in these 'falses' can be readily recognized for what they are, with less effort AND risk.


*History: awareness of an area of consistant known-to-be-falses. This awareness is either a consequence of personal experience "I drive by it every day" or the 9500ix's automated AutoLearn capability.

[CJR238]

X2 /\.

true lock is a tool, and just like any tool you should know something about how it works to make it work for you. The expectations for TrueLock seem to be way to high, but that's partly Escorts fault.

Its real simple TrueLock Mutes an area that is manually or automatically locked. There is no compromises with using TrueLock because you always have the option of temporarily turning it off.

You want quiet, don't speed in locked out areas and if you do want to speed there temporarily turn it off. Real simple, its not magic.

Its like people are expecting to be alerted of a real X band threat when you turned X band off.

[jmccam]

X2 /\.

true lock is a tool, and just like any tool you should know something about how it works to make it work for you. The expectations for TrueLock seem to be way to high, but that's partly Escorts fault.

Its real simple TrueLock Mutes an area that is manually or automatically locked. There is no compromises with using TrueLock because you always have the option of temporarily turning it off.

You want quiet, don't speed in locked out areas and if you do want to speed there temporarily turn it off. Real simple, its not magic.

Its like people are expecting to be alerted of a real X band threat when you turned X band off.

X2. Well Said! No radar detector is perfect! You want perfect...don't speed!

[benzrider]

I have experienced errors with the truelock as well as the manuel lockout features not working. I have the 9500 in my CL63 and anytime that a detection is locked out via manuely or auto lock, I have seen it not only lock out that specific band but everyother band as well as laser in the area the lockout was made. Luckly I have not recieved tickets, Has anybody else experienced other bands as well as laser being locked out as well ?

[CJR238]

I have experienced errors with the truelock as well as the manuel lockout features not working. I have the 9500 in my CL63 and anytime that a detection is locked out via manuely or auto lock, I have seen it not only lock out that specific band but everyother band as well as laser in the area the lockout was made. Luckly I have not recieved tickets, Has anybody else experienced other bands as well as laser being locked out as well ?

9500I doesn't lock out laser, ix will only manually lock it out, plus it doesn't lock the whole band.

Check out my 9500I/ix sticky/thread below.

[mercedesman]

benzrider:

I have an SL550 with the 9500ci installed about 3 weeks ago, I drive past the same buildings on my way home everyday and my system has locked out mutiple falses which is great .... but yesterday on my way home I drove past a locked out area and a police officer was sitting there and must have been hitting people driving by and mine never went off. I dont know what he was using laser or radar but either way I recieved no alert to this locked out area. I am not totally sold on the features for the 9500ci thus far.

[bmwguy]

I am located in Florida and I own a BMW M3 and I am interested in getting a radar for it. I register for several radar forums to get feed back on what radar is the best and by the looks of it this radar has some issues............

[CJR238]

I am located in Florida and I own a BMW M3 and I am interested in getting a radar for it. I register for several radar forums to get feed back on what radar is the best and by the looks of it this radar has some issues............

Its not the radar detector only that has issues, its also the users. But ether way the 9500ix is an awesome unit even without AutoLearn.

[snoopyc4]

9500I doesn't lock out laser

that would be bad if it did

[djrams80]

benzrider:

I have an SL550 with the 9500ci installed about 3 weeks ago, I drive past the same buildings on my way home everyday and my system has locked out mutiple falses which is great .... but yesterday on my way home I drove past a locked out area and a police officer was sitting there and must have been hitting people driving by and mine never went off. I dont know what he was using laser or radar but either way I recieved no alert to this locked out area. I am not totally sold on the features for the 9500ci thus far.

I'd say that 80% of the LEOs I see are not running any speed enforcement equipment. It is possible that what you saw was a lockout, but is highly unlikely. I'd say it's much more likely that he wasn't running anything at all. If your local was running Ka band or laser, then a lockout is not a possibility at all. Any idea what your local LEOs run normally?

I am located in Florida and I own a BMW M3 and I am interested in getting a radar for it. I register for several radar forums to get feed back on what radar is the best and by the looks of it this radar has some issues............

I own all of the top RDs on the market, except the STi and the 9500ci is by far my favorite. I do however live in an area highly favorable for TrueLock, since well over 99% of speed enforcement in my area is Ka band and laser, which cannot be locked out. K band is pretty rare around here.

There are many factors that make a RD fight for someone, or not right for someone. TrueLock has been out for two years now and the first report of a ticket because of it, came in the last week or so. The odds of it failing me or you are very slim, but admittedly possible.

In other words, it's up to each individual user to decide whether the peace and quiet of TrueLock filtering is worth the slight risk of failure. For me it is, for others it's not. Is it perfect? Certainly not. That's been proven.

But it should also be noted that the exact opposite has cost members here tickets and/or close calls. There is a member here that got himself a ticket because his V1 was making too much noise while he was attemting to hold a phone conversation in his car, so he turned the volume down and got a ticket because he forgot to turn the volume back up. Now, is the V1 user to blame for this ticket? No doubt. But his noisy RD was part of the problem also. I'd also argue that the member that got the TrueLock ticket made an error in judgement also, since he admitted to seeing a LEO engaged in speed enforcement in an area on the way to the store, then sped through that same area on the way back through.

Hopefully Escort will improve TrueLock, but I'd say that those expecting for it to be 100% infallible are going to be sadly disappointed. Any amount of filtering involves some risk, period.