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  1. #61
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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Yes I am new to Radar Detection that is a Fact.
    I am new on this forum that is also a fact.
    I am quite old when it comes to fairness, and getting others
    to see it more neutral. Especially here on the Internet.
    As far as that concern I may be older than half on this forum
    concerning internet.

    I indeed love your points, you are right.
    I feel V1 deserve the following that it has
    I feel that V1 is a super powerful detector.
    I also feel this detector known as the Redline will issue
    a coming. Okay, Escort, made mistakes in the past.
    I'm sure V1 has made some to.
    No, I don't think it is hype like many of you claiming it is.
    No, I don't think this will be another over hype detector like
    the past.

    All I'm saying is show verified proof by showing full video.
    Not a video that is doing the same route, or trip over and over.
    Show me a trip vs each other traveling through Mountains.
    On a long Highway trip, through the forest, back roads,
    country roads, city streets.
    Don't show me the same route over and over.
    Now whomever showed this video, I am honored and blessed.
    At least it started this ball game rolling.

    Now it is time for a fair DUEL.
    V1 & Redline should be tested.
    Not just base on one person opinion or drive through but several.
    (Radar Roy whom I trust and SpeedTrapHunter both acknowledge
    Redline pull more before the V1 did.)
    This video showing it for V1, which is a unfair same route.

    Anyone with intelligence can get in there car. Drive all around a city or country side to find a spot. Where one Detector can go over before the other.
    that is why this is not a fair setup. To be fair, you will have to drive, drive, drive and drive like Radar Roy and SpeedTrapHunter does.

    Now, this is what it should really be about.
    Both detectors being reviewed by more than one person doing more than
    one route. This is the way it should be.
    Even though I'm new, I am not new to bringing facts and points in a chat room or forum setting. I'm definitely not new to following Radar Roy because I've followed him since 2004, and
    I'm not new to bringing up facts in a forum, done so since mid 90's.
    I'm more like a watcher
    I read the forums on and off, and only sign up when it is the right time to speak. I feel this is one of those times.

    Enough of that though,
    All I'm really asking for is further reviews, proof and Facts
    on both Detectors against the other. Not same road trips or routes
    that any detector can best another in. I'm mean serious drives, and trips be it through City or Highway preferably both.

    ReVeaL
    Last edited by ReVeaL; 10-01-2009 at 12:49 AM.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by <<JAZZY>> View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ReVeaL View Post
    Personally,
    I read & read & read this thread.

    All I'm hearing is that over 9/10th of the post on this thread concerning
    Redline is bias towards V1. I'm not hearing anything unbias towards Redline
    detector. Even though, 2 different excellent reviewers.
    (Namely Radar Roy and Speedhunter) reviewed in there situations that
    Redline out performed V1 hands down.

    Now, Fact 1
    These videos shows the exact same route.
    Fact 2 how do we know that whether this person acknowledges it or not intentionally pushed the same route.

    You get in the car, and hook up the detectors. Then you find a point
    where the V1 is beating the Redline indefinitely. Then you go on and video tape
    this incident. Then decide to show the public this view point.

    All I'm seeing is the exact same ride through.
    Now, there are a ton of V1 supporters on this forum that I notice.
    This is fine, but there comes a time that one should be neutral and fair.

    I'm not seeing this within these threads even though 1 Expert Professional
    whom opinion I value (Radar Roy)
    &
    another whom seem to be very accurate as well
    (Speedhunter)

    In both of there videos they both acknowledge the Redline out perform V1.

    This is what I'm really saying here. This is my most important line of this
    whole point. Why not be fair, and let more Redline Vs V1 Tapes come to the forefront. Then review them fairly against one another.
    NOT on the same piece of Landmark doing the same route over and over again.
    That is not a fair review.
    That is like Radar Roy reviewing 1 of the few times V1 alerted over the Redline, and then say. Hey, let me video tape it and run this route several more times on tape. This one tape proves nothing to me because there are 2 to 3 other
    reviewers where the Redline has beaten V1 Detector.

    Now if you all wish to use the regular civilians reviewers find with me.
    Show me the proof, facts, and tapes of Redline & V1.
    Not going around the same route over and over again, but many many
    streets, different Highways, areas, forest, plains, mountains and States,.

    ReVeaL
    Radar Roy is a great guy but why would he want to show the V1 beating Bels and Escorts when he doesn't sell the V1? I believe that the VeilGuy was given a Redline before they were even released so it could have been juiced or the cream of the crop off of the assembly line at Escort. You are a newbie and you have yet to realize that Bel and Escort usually talk alot of crap but don't back it up with performance.

    They claimed that the Escort 8500 was better than the V1...not true...the Escort 8500 X50 had 50% better blah blah than the V1...not true...the Escort 9500i and Escort 9500ix are the latest technological GPS blah blabbity blah...not better than the V1. Here comes the Redline with turbocharged, supercharged, Charles In Charge, nitrous oxide injected, hyper speed technology to capture cops without radar on...not true as usual so you should understand why people back the V1 because it has been #1 since 1992.

    If you don't believe the respected forum members then that is your problem. Go out and buy a V1 and Redline and experience the Escort QT fail and watch the V1 perform on the same level as the Redline for $100 cheaper and it comes with arrows and a rear radar antenna.
    I could not have said it any better than that. I can see he did not see the Veil Guys Videos.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReVeaL View Post
    Yes I am new to Radar Detection that is a Fact.
    I am new on this forum that is also a fact.
    I am quite old when it comes to fairness, and getting others
    to see it more neutral. Especially here on the Internet.
    As far as that concern I may be older than half on this forum
    concerning internet.

    I indeed love your points, you are right.
    I feel V1 deserve the following that it has
    I feel that V1 is a super powerful detector.
    I also feel this detector known as the Redline will issue
    a coming. Okay, Escort, made mistakes in the past.
    I'm sure V1 has made some to.
    No, I don't think it is hype like many of you claiming it is.
    No, I don't think this will be another over hype detector like
    the past.

    All I'm saying is show verified proof by showing full video.
    Not a video that is doing the same route, or trip over and over.
    Show me a trip vs each other traveling through Mountains.
    On a long Highway trip, through the forest, back roads,
    country roads, city streets.
    Don't show me the same route over and over.
    Now whomever showed this video, I am honored and blessed.
    At least it started this ball game rolling.

    Now it is time for a fair DUEL.
    V1 & Redline should be tested.
    Not just base on one person opinion or drive through but several.
    (Radar Roy whom I trust and SpeedTrapHunter both acknowledge
    Redline pull more before the V1 did.)
    This video showing it for V1, which is a unfair same route.

    Anyone with intelligence can get in there car. Drive all around a city or country side to find a spot. Where one Detector can go over before the other.
    that is why this is not a fair setup. To be fair, you will have to drive, drive, drive and drive like Radar Roy and SpeedTrapHunter does.

    Now, this is what it should really be about.
    Both detectors being reviewed by more than one person doing more than
    one route. This is the way it should be.
    Even though I'm new, I am not new to bringing facts and points in a chat room or forum setting. I'm definitely not new to following Radar Roy because I've followed him since 2004, and
    I'm not new to bringing up facts in a forum, done so since mid 90's.
    I'm more like a watcher
    I read the forums on and off, and only sign up when it is the right time to speak. I feel this is one of those times.

    Enough of that though,
    All I'm really asking for is further reviews, proof and Facts
    on both Detectors against the other. Not same road trips or routes
    that any detector can best another in. I'm mean serious drives, and trips be it through City or Highway preferably both.

    ReVeaL
    First of all Welcome to the site. Second of all - SEARCH is your friend. There is at least 6 months of reading to catch you up. Third - raise your hand if you want to speak. you will find that people who stay around here for a while gain credibility. those who come on and try to manipulate videos or testing are soon outed and dismissed. you can believe what you want about anything here but when some of the older members make videos and statements you can take it to the bank that they are simply posting their results from a specific test on a specific day under specific circumstance. and BTW - you'll get the results you are asking for shortly. GOL is your friend.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    ReVeal,
    First off, welcome to the forum.
    Secondly, it is a good idea to do some searching here before you post comments.
    Thirdly, Airmoore and I both stated that it was a K band speed sign (yes, the same sign) that we made multiple runs against. We were not being bias against the Redline but merely showing a performance comparison in this specific situation. We did this to prove a point regarding all the hoopla that surrounded the introduction of the Redline. It is hyped as better than the V1 handsdown and off the V1 charts performance wise. Guess what, it's not. I had it in my truck for almost a week, and 1900 miles, in my experiences it ain't all that. Also, I am and have been an escort customer for a long time.
    Again, welcome to the forum.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaPro View Post
    ReVeal,
    First off, welcome to the forum.
    Secondly, it is a good idea to do some searching here before you post comments.
    Thirdly, Airmoore and I both stated that it was a K band speed sign (yes, the same sign) that we made multiple runs against. We were not being bias against the Redline but merely showing a performance comparison in this specific situation. We did this to prove a point regarding all the hoopla that surrounded the introduction of the Redline. It is hyped as better than the V1 handsdown and off the V1 charts performance wise. Guess what, it's not. I had it in my truck for almost a week, and 1900 miles, in my experiences it ain't all that. Also, I am and have been an escort customer for a long time.
    Again, welcome to the forum.

    x2.

    Very well put.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    BullyDawg19
    First of all Welcome to the site. Second of all - SEARCH is your friend. There is at least 6 months of reading to catch you up. Third - raise your hand if you want to speak. you will find that people who stay around here for a while gain credibility. those who come on and try to manipulate videos or testing are soon outed and dismissed. you can believe what you want about anything here but when some of the older members make videos and statements you can take it to the bank that they are simply posting their results from a specific test on a specific day under specific circumstance. and BTW - you'll get the results you are asking for shortly. GOL is your friend.

    Kapro
    ReVeal,
    First off, welcome to the forum.
    Secondly, it is a good idea to do some searching here before you post comments.
    Thirdly, Airmoore and I both stated that it was a K band speed sign (yes, the same sign) that we made multiple runs against. We were not being bias against the Redline but merely showing a performance comparison in this specific situation. We did this to prove a point regarding all the hoopla that surrounded the introduction of the Redline. It is hyped as better than the V1 handsdown and off the V1 charts performance wise. Guess what, it's not. I had it in my truck for almost a week, and 1900 miles, in my experiences it ain't all that. Also, I am and have been an escort customer for a long time.
    Again, welcome to the forum.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ReVeaL writes:
    Yeah I read that it was the same passageway or trip.
    Lets be honest here, all I'm hearing is a bias opinions.
    Everyone that speaks out for V1 are mainly V1 backers.
    So of course you all going to make statements comments benefiting
    the V1. All I'm hearing is arrows which is good thing.
    Sensitivity which is a good thing.
    So far, but which one is going off more times than the V1.
    The Redline has on all videos pound to pound put together.

    Okay V1, has maybe won in the quick trigger setup.
    It is not the Redline haven't pulled it off at least a little.
    Redline has RDD, which the V1 doesn't.
    To me, both of these cancel each other out.

    Now lets have a real complete test amongst all the Civilian testers.
    Testing these detectors against one another on more than one trip to be
    fair. Trips spanning miles, miles of proven facts.
    Personally, I think your opinion is bias towards the V1.
    Even though you driven 1900 miles with it, produce the tape so we all
    can see some of it. Show the tape in the forum so we can see the
    V1 going off before the Redline more often.
    Then I will be saying that is more fair. Especially when I see others bring
    forth there Tapes as well. This forum needs someone that is more neutral like me.
    Not someone whom just going to believe what someone says just because
    it is typed or shown one trip over and over on the forum.
    Even though, you are a Escort owner that doesn't
    mean you back Redline.

    I am very grateful for you taking the time out to produce the video.
    I personally appreciate the video and definitely will love to see more trips like this except showing a more complete drive. There is probably a place, some place in the United States. That any Modern day detector, at least one place.
    Will go off before another detector if you search hard enough.
    So lets please bring forth more complete trips, and more of these so we all can see. I'm going to stick with Radar Roy & SpeedTrapHunter, hearing them say oh the Redline went off now the V1 shortly thereafter words.
    Over anyone else words on here until we get more further videos of them together. Not same runs all the time over over, complete runs.
    (Driving through Mountains, Highways, Cities, Hills, Valleys, Forest, Plains, Deserts)
    That is the only way to see which one is really better.

    Redline or V1 or Both

    ReVeaL

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReVeaL View Post
    ReVeaL writes:
    Yeah I read that it was the same passageway or trip.
    Lets be honest here, all I'm hearing is a bias opinions.
    Everyone that speaks out for V1 are mainly V1 backers.
    So of course you all going to make statements comments benefiting
    the V1. All I'm hearing is arrows which is good thing.
    Sensitivity which is a good thing.
    So far, but which one is going off more times than the V1.
    The Redline has on all videos pound to pound put together.

    Okay V1, has maybe won in the quick trigger setup.
    It is not the Redline haven't pulled it off at least a little.
    Redline has RDD, which the V1 doesn't.
    To me, both of these cancel each other out.

    Now lets have a real complete test amongst all the Civilian testers.
    Testing these detectors against one another on more than one trip to be
    fair. Trips spanning miles, miles of proven facts.
    Personally, I think your opinion is bias towards the V1.
    Even though you driven 1900 miles with it, produce the tape so we all
    can see some of it. Show the tape in the forum so we can see the
    V1 going off before the Redline more often.
    Then I will be saying that is more fair. Especially when I see others bring
    forth there Tapes as well. This forum needs someone that is more neutral like me.
    Not someone whom just going to believe what someone says just because
    it is typed or shown one trip over and over on the forum.
    Even though, you are a Escort owner that doesn't
    mean you back Redline.

    I am very grateful for you taking the time out to produce the video.
    I personally appreciate the video and definitely will love to see more trips like this except showing a more complete drive. There is probably a place, some place in the United States. That any Modern day detector, at least one place.
    Will go off before another detector if you search hard enough.
    So lets please bring forth more complete trips, and more of these so we all can see. I'm going to stick with Radar Roy & SpeedTrapHunter, hearing them say oh the Redline went off now the V1 shortly thereafter words.
    Over anyone else words on here until we get more further videos of them together. Not same runs all the time over over, complete runs.
    (Driving through Mountains, Highways, Cities, Hills, Valleys, Forest, Plains, Deserts)
    That is the only way to see which one is really better.

    Redline or V1 or Both

    ReVeaL

    Much to learn you have newb, much to learn you do.

    1)Your assertion is that KaPro is for some-reason bias TOWARDS the V1 which he doesn't even own. He has in the passed, but has since moved onto the Bel Sti. Why in the world would he have any reason to back the V1.


    2) Your assertion is I back the V1..... OBVIOUSLY you haven't been on here for very long at all... BV and I had near wars about V1 vs Escort detectors... him being pro V1, and I being pro Belscort... of course I owned, and currently own both (certain Belscorts anyways), so I ehhhmmm ahhh NVM.

    3) The videos don't lie? The Redline IMO hasn't out performed the V1 on any margin of 'off the charts' on any tests I have seen.


    4) KaPro puts more miles on his truck with radar detectors then most anyone I know on this forum, and I know for a fact that where he was driving with the Redline, he covered virtually every sort of environmental terrain that is possible, and some of the toughest enforcement tactics known to us in the hobby (IE: NYST).


    5) YOUR neutral? Your not even known on the forum, your a joker at this point... where are all of your tests vs the V1/X50/Sti/Redline etc? If your the only one out there who can be unbiased? When I see your videos, then I will take heed of your word.


    6) How does Spectre immunity and arrows cancel each other out? The Spectre immunity is useless to most all members of the forum, and the spectre immunity can be had for ~$30 less on the Sti... which seems to have similar detection.


    I see Ban him posts coming.
    Last edited by AirMoore; 10-01-2009 at 12:54 PM.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReVeaL View Post
    BullyDawg19
    First of all Welcome to the site. Second of all - SEARCH is your friend. There is at least 6 months of reading to catch you up. Third - raise your hand if you want to speak. you will find that people who stay around here for a while gain credibility. those who come on and try to manipulate videos or testing are soon outed and dismissed. you can believe what you want about anything here but when some of the older members make videos and statements you can take it to the bank that they are simply posting their results from a specific test on a specific day under specific circumstance. and BTW - you'll get the results you are asking for shortly. GOL is your friend.

    Kapro
    ReVeal,
    First off, welcome to the forum.
    Secondly, it is a good idea to do some searching here before you post comments.
    Thirdly, Airmoore and I both stated that it was a K band speed sign (yes, the same sign) that we made multiple runs against. We were not being bias against the Redline but merely showing a performance comparison in this specific situation. We did this to prove a point regarding all the hoopla that surrounded the introduction of the Redline. It is hyped as better than the V1 handsdown and off the V1 charts performance wise. Guess what, it's not. I had it in my truck for almost a week, and 1900 miles, in my experiences it ain't all that. Also, I am and have been an escort customer for a long time.
    Again, welcome to the forum.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ReVeaL writes:
    Yeah I read that it was the same passageway or trip.
    Lets be honest here, all I'm hearing is a bias opinions.
    Everyone that speaks out for V1 are mainly V1 backers.
    So of course you all going to make statements comments benefiting
    the V1. All I'm hearing is arrows which is good thing.
    Sensitivity which is a good thing.
    So far, but which one is going off more times than the V1.
    The Redline has on all videos pound to pound put together.

    Okay V1, has maybe won in the quick trigger setup.
    It is not the Redline haven't pulled it off at least a little.
    Redline has RDD, which the V1 doesn't.
    To me, both of these cancel each other out.

    Now lets have a real complete test amongst all the Civilian testers.
    Testing these detectors against one another on more than one trip to be
    fair. Trips spanning miles, miles of proven facts.
    Personally, I think your opinion is bias towards the V1.
    Even though you driven 1900 miles with it, produce the tape so we all
    can see some of it. Show the tape in the forum so we can see the
    V1 going off before the Redline more often.
    Then I will be saying that is more fair. Especially when I see others bring
    forth there Tapes as well. This forum needs someone that is more neutral like me.
    Not someone whom just going to believe what someone says just because
    it is typed or shown one trip over and over on the forum.
    Even though, you are a Escort owner that doesn't
    mean you back Redline.

    I am very grateful for you taking the time out to produce the video.
    I personally appreciate the video and definitely will love to see more trips like this except showing a more complete drive. There is probably a place, some place in the United States. That any Modern day detector, at least one place.
    Will go off before another detector if you search hard enough.
    So lets please bring forth more complete trips, and more of these so we all can see. I'm going to stick with Radar Roy & SpeedTrapHunter, hearing them say oh the Redline went off now the V1 shortly thereafter words.
    Over anyone else words on here until we get more further videos of them together. Not same runs all the time over over, complete runs.
    (Driving through Mountains, Highways, Cities, Hills, Valleys, Forest, Plains, Deserts)
    That is the only way to see which one is really better.

    Redline or V1 or Both

    ReVeaL
    Then ReVeal if you don't trust these guys videos then you are going to have to wait on the next GOL tests that should have the Redline detectors. If you don't trust these guys results then i don't know what to tell you.

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    Default Re: REDLINE, V1, X50, STi Testing VIDEO.

    How did you guys read that to even respond to ReVeal, I need a paraphrased version LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky2 View Post
    How did you guys read that to even respond to ReVeal, I need a paraphrased version LOL.
    I haven't read it yet. He's a man of many words. I'm not saying that in a bad way.

 

 

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