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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

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    I think the reason for this is because he is a "Moderator" on that site, and it only seems to be appropriate to use their logic as far as this issue of Q/T.
    CJR238 has more ties to Escort than just being a moderator on their website.
    Ok let me set the record straight for you and everyone else that just don't seem to get it.

    1- I went to collage for digital electronics and like most of us i have an obsession for cool stuff.

    2-I have been in the Fitness sales, service and devilry industry for about 16 years to date with one of the largest and oldest in the US.

    3- I have a lot of fitness technical knowledge as well as extensive sales training.

    4- I'm simply a RD enthusiast that likes to see the glass 1/2 full and find solutions to problems. I also have friends that own car audio stores which i get my Escort products from.

    5- I decided to become an Escort MOD because i was asked (and who better). I'm also in hopes to be a bit of a middleman between us. How i see it you guys need my help more than i need yours so please be nice. I know im worried about all the recent BS that's been going on. And in the end it just hurts us all.

    So this BS your coming up with is plain wrong, and if anyone should be pointed out with ties it would be the entire GOL team. And that's just scary. Just because i know how company's work, have a NE education and lots of people/business experience that doesn't mean im more involved than any outer regular guy here.

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    Now if we want to move forward with the QT issue someone try and get more state wide confirmations that QT is used. We must have a RD enthusiast in every state.
    Nice stuff on the web site...
    Yeah, I agree, not bad at all, nice.
    Only the best! nothing like selling 10k treadmills. Working on a new home page, too cluttered right now.
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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

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    Quote Originally Posted by dslrip32 View Post
    I think the reason for this is because he is a "Moderator" on that site, and it only seems to be appropriate to use their logic as far as this issue of Q/T.
    CJR238 has more ties to Escort than just being a moderator on their website.
    Ok let me set the record straight for you and everyone else that just don't seem to get it.

    1- I went to collage for digital electronics and like most of us i have an obsession for cool stuff.

    2-I have been in the Fitness sales, service and devilry industry for about 16 years to date with one of the largest and oldest in the US.

    3- I have a lot of fitness technical knowledge as well as extensive sales training.

    4- I'm simply a RD enthusiast that likes to see the glass 1/2 full and find solutions to problems. I also have friends that own car audio stores which i get my Escort products from.

    5- I decided to become an Escort MOD because i was asked (and who better). I'm also in hopes to be a bit of a middleman between us. How i see it you guys need my help more than i need yours so please be nice. I know im worried about all the recent BS that's been going on. And in the end it just hurts us all.

    So this BS your coming up with is plain wrong, and if anyone should be pointed out with ties it would be the entire GOL team. And that's just scary. Just because i know how company's work, have a NE education and lots of people/business experience that doesn't mean im more involved than any outer regular guy here.

    ************************************************** ********************

    Should be easy to find me.



    Now if we want to move forward with the QT issue someone try and get more state wide confirmations that QT is used. We must have a RD enthusiast in every state.
    Nice stuff on the web site...
    Yeah, I agree, not bad at all, nice.
    Only the best! nothing like selling 10k treadmills. Working on a new home page, too cluttered right now.
    Dude, your so full of whats coming out of the south end of a north bound male cow it's scary.

    Are Utah and Colorado two out of the three states that use QT? What state does the trooper on Youtube come from? Texas? Are those the three out of the 50?
    Now come to think of it djrams has had some QT encounters too and I don't think he lives in Utah, Colorado or Texas either. I think some other guys on here have stated that they've had some problems as well. Hummmmm I think dslrip32 has some issues with QT. He lives in Utah, Colorado, or Texas as well???

    Mr. Amity Mayor, keep telling people its safe to swim in shark infested waters if you like to, but I think those that know a little bit of something, know better and theres even been a few of us thats been bit on the @$$ already. No Belscort for me, I'll swim elsewhere.
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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

    Quote Originally Posted by MMeteor View Post

    Are Utah and Colorado two out of the three states that use QT? What state does the trooper on Youtube come from? Texas? Are those the three out of the 50?
    Now come to think of it djrams has had some QT encounters too and I don't think he lives in Utah, Colorado or Texas either. I think some other guys on here have stated that they've had some problems as well. Hummmmm I think dslrip32 has some issues with QT. He lives in Utah, Colorado, or Texas as well???

    Mr. Amnityville Mayor, keep telling people its safe to swim in shark infested waters if you like to, but I think those that know a little bit of something, know better and theres even been a few of us thats been bit on the @$$ already. No Belscort for me, I'll swim elsewhere.

    I honestly have seen more Q/T use in Oklahoma on the Interstates and mainly Toll roads, than I have in Texas. And that is just me. I guess no one from Oklahoma is a member here that can vouch for this also, but I will be posting a bunch of videos of this soon as I capture them. It is funny though and ironic, that I live in Texas, and my main threat of Q/T has popped me in Okie land. I have seen and witnessed it a lot though here in Texas though, just have not gotten nailed with a citation. One in Oklahoma tends to drive a little faster on the Interstates and especially the toll roads as the speed limit is 75. Also if you notice, I always mention Stalker DSR 2X. That is because that is what nailed me in these citations with a whisper quiet Escort product. My stupid video of 35.5 LEO in Sherman is a joke compared to the stalkers... That is why I bought a V1, because Escorts can't match up to the Stalker DSR's. It only took me 2 tickets to figure this out, and I have not changed my driving habits, and guess what? I have had 2 saves already that I posted about due to my V1, against DSR 2X.
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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

    Quote Originally Posted by dslrip32 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MMeteor View Post

    Are Utah and Colorado two out of the three states that use QT? What state does the trooper on Youtube come from? Texas? Are those the three out of the 50?
    Now come to think of it djrams has had some QT encounters too and I don't think he lives in Utah, Colorado or Texas either. I think some other guys on here have stated that they've had some problems as well. Hummmmm I think dslrip32 has some issues with QT. He lives in Utah, Colorado, or Texas as well???

    Mr. Amnityville Mayor, keep telling people its safe to swim in shark infested waters if you like to, but I think those that know a little bit of something, know better and theres even been a few of us thats been bit on the @$$ already. No Belscort for me, I'll swim elsewhere.

    I honestly have seen more Q/T use in Oklahoma on the Interstates and mainly Toll roads, than I have in Texas. And that is just me. I guess no one from Oklahoma is a member here that can vouch for this also, but I will be posting a bunch of videos of this soon as I capture them. It is funny though and ironic, that I live in Texas, and my main threat of Q/T has popped me in Okie land. I have seen and witnessed it a lot though here in Texas though, just have not gotten nailed with a citation. One in Oklahoma tends to drive a little faster on the Interstates and especially the toll roads as the speed limit is 75. Also if you notice, I always mention Stalker DSR 2X. That is because that is what nailed me in these citations with a whisper quiet Escort product. My stupid video of 35.5 LEO in Sherman is a joke compared to the stalkers... That is why I bought a V1, because Escorts can't match up to the Stalker DSR's. It only took me 2 tickets to figure this out, and I have not changed my driving habits, and guess what? I have had 2 saves already that I posted about due to my V1, against DSR 2X.
    X2, But the Belsorts do very well with 34.7 DSR x2, probably there best. i encounter it every day and my 9500 handles it very well (excluding QT). Most would also agree the 9500 series does well with 34.7.
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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

    Quote Originally Posted by MMeteor View Post

    Dude, your so full of whats coming out of the south end of a north bound male cow it's scary.

    Are Utah and Colorado two out of the three states that use QT? What state does the trooper on Youtube come from? Texas? Are those the three out of the 50?
    Now come to think of it djrams has had some QT encounters too and I don't think he lives in Utah, Colorado or Texas either. I think some other guys on here have stated that they've had some problems as well. Hummmmm I think dslrip32 has some issues with QT. He lives in Utah, Colorado, or Texas as well???

    Mr. Amity Mayor, keep telling people its safe to swim in shark infested waters if you like to, but I think those that know a little bit of something, know better and theres even been a few of us thats been bit on the @$$ already. No Belscort for me, I'll swim elsewhere.
    Exzacley, and yes DJ and dslrip live in the main states QT is a serious problem (CA & TX). If Colorado and Utah need to be add then confirm/sow proof and add them. Now there are 4 out of 50.

    I don't care if its 4 out of 50 or 50 out of 50, but one percentage will get more of a response than the other. (i guarantee this is what escort is doing to way there response to this issue, but in there own time)

    This will also help any poor member that buys a QT deficient RD and joins we can point out there problem according to state/citi and they can adjust accordingly. (just did this on Escorts forum for a member in TX)

    You can have the best equipment in the world but if you don't know your enemy or where they are you will never Winn...

    No need to worry about sharks when swimming in non shark infested waters, and this is coming from someone who knows a little bit about something.
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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MMeteor View Post

    Dude, your so full of whats coming out of the south end of a north bound male cow it's scary.

    Are Utah and Colorado two out of the three states that use QT? What state does the trooper on Youtube come from? Texas? Are those the three out of the 50?
    Now come to think of it djrams has had some QT encounters too and I don't think he lives in Utah, Colorado or Texas either. I think some other guys on here have stated that they've had some problems as well. Hummmmm I think dslrip32 has some issues with QT. He lives in Utah, Colorado, or Texas as well???

    Mr. Amity Mayor, keep telling people its safe to swim in shark infested waters if you like to, but I think those that know a little bit of something, know better and theres even been a few of us thats been bit on the @$$ already. No Belscort for me, I'll swim elsewhere.
    Exzacley, and yes DJ and dslrip live in the main states QT is a serious problem (CA & TX). If Colorado and Utah need to be add then confirm/sow proof and add them. Now there are 4 out of 50.

    I don't care if its 4 out of 50 or 50 out of 50, but one percentage will get more of a response than the other. (i guarantee this is what escort is doing to way there response to this issue, but in there own time)

    This will also help any poor member that buys a QT deficient RD and joins we can point out there problem according to state/citi and they can adjust accordingly. (just did this on Escorts forum for a member in TX)

    You can have the best equipment in the world but if you don't know your enemy or where they are you will never Winn...

    No need to worry about sharks when swimming in non shark infested waters, and this is coming from someone who knows a little bit about something.

    Yup, keep telling yourself and everyone else that there are no concerns or issues and that if you don't drive through a select few states that you'll be just fine.

    It hasn't been proven that QT tactics are being used so it doesn't exist. This by far is the best defense without a doubt.

    I guess some don't mind being chum or bait and it's all good by me. You can certainly come be my rabbit anytime.

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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

    Quote Originally Posted by MMeteor View Post
    Yup, keep telling yourself and everyone else that there are no concerns or issues and that if you don't drive through a select few states that you'll be just fine.

    It hasn't been proven that QT tactics are being used so it doesn't exist. This by far is the best defense without a doubt.

    I guess some don't mind being chum or bait and it's all good by me. You can certainly come be my rabbit anytime.
    Come on where do you see in any of my posts where i say QT isn't used and it doesn't exist or its not a concern? Now your just being antagonistic.
    You dont see how knowing the amount of QT being used and where would help people????

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238 View Post
    I don't care if its 4 out of 50 or 50 out of 50, but one percentage will get more of a response than the other. (i guarantee this is what escort is doing to way there response to this issue, but in there own time)
    But why? They didn't need 50 out of 50 to address POP, LIDAR, or SWS. Why a new standard for QT that has never been a standard before?

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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238 View Post
    I don't care if its 4 out of 50 or 50 out of 50, but one percentage will get more of a response than the other. (i guarantee this is what escort is doing to way there response to this issue, but in there own time)
    But why? They didn't need 50 out of 50 to address POP, LIDAR, or SWS. Why a new standard for QT that has never been a standard before?
    That is because QT is used only in 2 states.

    Alright seriously, I think state has nothing to do with it. I think it depends on bored LEOs. Boredom leads to creativity and so on. I'm a pretty cheap person but I bet big bucks QT is used in all 50 states. Its common sense. Anybody who says its only used in # of states is in for a rough one. I do think people are mistaking QT for I/O now so that is why its such a big deal now. To really get a feel for what the alerts should look like, you have to experience both sides.

    I remember the first time I seen this method. Early this year, I was in the mooning rush and started pickup in Ka alerts that lasted for less than a second. The first few times he shot, I was only able to catch the V1 with my ear. The next few shot I had my eye trained on the CD. I thought the V1 was broken again. I forgot about the encounter until DJ put up that one video with the 9500ci missing it. When I seen that, I thought to myself, hey that's what I seen that one morning.

    I think manufactures addressed POP, LIDAR, or SWS immediately because it was another easy selling point to write on the box. The words Quick Trigger, make your average user to say WTH? I don't feel like it but I offer an opinion on individual why POP, Laser and SWS were "addressed" so quickly.

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    Default Re: Redline vs. V1 vs. DSR 2X vs. Reaction Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CJR238 View Post
    I don't care if its 4 out of 50 or 50 out of 50, but one percentage will get more of a response than the other. (i guarantee this is what escort is doing to way there response to this issue, but in there own time)
    But why? They didn't need 50 out of 50 to address POP, LIDAR, or SWS. Why a new standard for QT that has never been a standard before?
    Thanks for asking. All the above features are advertised features, features that are part of the unit for its specific purpose and advertised that way, whereas QT is more of a technique.
    Escort keeps up with big features like POP, LIDAR even SWS. But QT is a technique so there is no patent to follow and no set rules how its used. If a manufacturer made a specific feature im sure Escort would be right on it, but techniques are open for interpretation and cant all ways bee foreseen.

    Dont get me wrong its very short sited for Escort not to just have there RD's as fast as possible but it never was an obvious issue they needed to find a solution to before. I also don't completely mean 50 out of 50, that's more for our benefit, but Escort im sure would have to move faster and give us better answers if we could show them its used in almost all major states the way its used in CA & TX.
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