Do all Belscorts respond equally to...

[Motor On]

Q/T?

There I tried to keep the buzz word out of the title, but I did some informal proof of concept testing today, and want to know if I'm going to need to hunt down locals with the other Escort models for the more scientific tests.

[Z1NONLY]

Although there is a recent thread regarding an STi-R getting beaten by QT. My unit did very well in testing...

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...s-ka-k-qt.html

My 9500ix pretty much fails at detecting QT.

[Motor On]

If I'm dash mounts covered, I'll be satisfied with the scope, I'm just trying to figure out if the S7 8500 is enough to put the proper info together or if I need to coordinate with a friend that's got a 9500ix so the M4 platform is tested too.

[KaPro]

Test whatever different units you can get your hands on. An M4 vs an S7 is a must.

[nine_c1]

If I'm dash mounts covered, I'll be satisfied with the scope, I'm just trying to figure out if the S7 8500 is enough to put the proper info together or if I need to coordinate with a friend that's got a 9500ix so the M4 platform is tested too.

If your going to do a test of the dashmount Belscorts for best reaction times, you certainly want to try an RX65 or C65 in 'USA' mode. This is similar to Band Segmentation where the detector scans only the portion of Ka band used by police in the US. To be complete, an M3 STi or RedLine wouldn't hurt.......I suspect the M3 is approximate to the M4 but the antenna and LO board are vastly different.

I think you'll find the 8500 S7 to be quicker that either the M3 or M4 except for the RX65 / C65 in USA mode.

[CJR238]

If I'm dash mounts covered, I'll be satisfied with the scope, I'm just trying to figure out if the S7 8500 is enough to put the proper info together or if I need to coordinate with a friend that's got a 9500ix so the M4 platform is tested too.

To be complete, an M3 STi or RedLine wouldn't hurt.......I suspect the M3 is approximate to the M4 but the antenna and LO board are vastly different.

I think you'll find the 8500 S7 to be quicker that either the M3 or M4 except for the RX65 / C65 in USA mode.

X2, and the old S7's are definitely quicker.

[dpatel01]

An M4 vs an S7 is a must.

non pop S7 vs pop capable S7 vs M4 will show the backwards Q/T progression at Belscort.

[Motor On]

Well this ought to be interesting, Saturday would be the soonest I can get my hands on the M4 (even then I have to approach it carefully telling people you've got a radar gun gets odd looks), but I can mess with the S7 all week (I'll have to check it's POP status); and if that's the best performer against Q/T, well.....

I'd love to figure out a time burst controller to figure out the exact burst length for a precise time of Q/T and not just minimum time to get a reading.

[nine_c1]

Well this ought to be interesting, Saturday would be the soonest I can get my hands on the M4 (even then I have to approach it carefully telling people you've got a radar gun gets odd looks), but I can mess with the S7 all week (I'll have to check it's POP status); and if that's the best performer against Q/T, well.....

I'd love to figure out a time burst controller to figure out the exact burst length for a precise time of Q/T and not just minimum time to get a reading.

Doesn't everyone own their own radar gun?

Hmmmm.......I'd love to have a timed switch to control the burst duration of the radar too. Unfortunately, I had to default to a stop watch and two opposable thumbs.

There is no way to determine exactly how long it takes for the RD to alert to a shot when it does in fact alert. So I practiced with the stop watch and radar hold switch and pulled shots in 100ms brackets ranging from .2 seconds up to 1 second and recorded whether or not the RD alerted. For instance, when testing the .9 to 1 second interval, if the RD alerted before .9 seconds had elapsed I still recorded it as a hit between .9 to 1.0 since that was the bracket being tested. Also, if I was testing .3 to .4 seconds and miss timed the shot (ex: .28 seconds) the result was disgarded (positive or negative) and another pull was made.

Here is a link to some K & Ka band QT testing I did with the RedLine and an 8500 S7.

[ame="http://www.escortradarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7252#post7252"]RedLine QT Testing - Page 3 - Escort Radar Forum[/ame]


Here is a vid where I checked out my Kustom GE to see what the minimum time necessary to capture a speed was for the radar itself. It took a minimum of .25 seconds for me to be able to discern a speed reading. I suspect some of the handhelds that automatically lock the speed when releasing the trigger might be just a smidge faster.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkxFYBWZqNA"]YouTube - Kustom Golden Eagle QT's[/ame]

Good luck on your testing!

[CJR238]

I think Motor On is testing from trigger pull to emitting radar. If not definitely do the tests with a moving target, with some guns it changes from just QT as fast as you can, to QT as fast as you can with obtaining a speed as well.