Thread: dna

**FoolishOne** · 08-24-2009, 10:40 AM

This stuff is.....liquid? ...film?

**Stealth Stalker** · 08-24-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by dna

And concerning the Alfa Romeo 147 GTA, I was wondering where best to put the LPP as I only have 1 head and not 2...
My goal is not to get JTG but rather to get an alert and then break as soon as possible.

It doesn't work that way. You're going to need at least a second head if you hope to have ANY chance whatsoever. Otherwise, you're no better off than with just a radar detector, which is none.

**dna** · 08-25-2009, 07:07 AM

This is a liquid which can be applied as a spray, so there will be no brush strokes like with VEIL.
And it has around the same reflectivity when it is put on the licenseplate as that one would point in the sky concerning the reflectivity of the laser.
The bumper by itself which is black has more reflectivity then the coated licenseplate.
So probably in combination with this coating the LPP single head will still be effective.

Effectivity for me means getting a message that I'm being lasered and that it jams the signal for a very short while so I can break.
I do not need a jam to gun action of the LPP.

h t t p : / / youtube.com/watch?v=ENAGMwjRIT4&fmt=18

Reflectivity modus with Ultralyte LR100.

**FoolishOne** · 08-25-2009, 09:58 AM

Could you try something moving?

**Stealth Stalker** · 08-25-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by dna

Effectivity for me means getting a message that I'm being lasered and that it jams the signal for a very short while so I can break.
I do not need a jam to gun action of the LPP.

Again, nice theory, but it doesn't work that way.

**dna** · 08-26-2009, 01:02 AM

The coating has been tested with a vehicle starting at 1600 meters (1 mile).
And was only measurable at 400 meters (1300 feet) with an Ultralyte LR100.
And with a LaserPatrol it was measurable at 67 meter (220 feet).

In the USA are the cops using the Ultralyte too, it's quite a new gun used since 2002 over here.

And besides, this coating doesn't effect the brightness of the headlights like VEIL, you can barely see that it is on there. Also it doesn't get washed off after some time and needs to be re-applied.

**Stealth Stalker** · 08-26-2009, 07:02 AM

It's got nothing to do with your coating. A single, center mounted LPP head simply is quite likely to miss a shot and not react before the officer has your speed, no matter the distance, but especially at shorter distances. Jammers are as much about SEEING the shot as they are about shooting back. That's why you need a second head if you hope to have any chance.

**thx1138** · 08-26-2009, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by dna

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And besides, this coating doesn't effect the brightness of the headlights like VEIL, you can barely see that it is on there. Also it doesn't get washed off after some time and needs to be re-applied.

When you are able please post some pictures of the application on your headlights. A before and after would be great.

**dna** · 08-26-2009, 07:29 AM

Then in that case I would like to refer you to this website where they did quite some extensive testing with different jammers and different laserguns and different setups.

h t t p : / / flitsservice.nl/cm_php/main_repo.php?id=3027

There are movies which can be downloaded, every time a single head was used and mounted above the licenseplate.

The link can also be put in to google translations to make it english and easier readable for you guys.