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[tjet]

hello, i am the new from switzerland. i never got a single speeding ticket in my one year driving career, which is quite a mystery to me. so i'm looking for a radar detector since it could happen anytime. unfortunately owning a radar detector is a kind of an offense here, so be careful when you pass switzerland (~500 or more USD + criminal complaint + confiscate of the RD)... even having radar POI on you navigation system is a crime... they won't make any difference between owning POI and owning a real RD either (read the court ruling here in english: is.gd/3sYD - btw. Amigo is a POI based GPS device)

[thx1138]

Welcome to the forum. Sounds like a stealthy radar detector with a stealthy install is important for you. The Bel Sti Driver or the remote mount Bel STi-r are not detectable. Note the STi-r is a remote unit and was just discontinued. You may want to look at guysoflidar.com for the latest, objective RD testing. Results were just published and just about everyone here is reading and commenting on them.

[tjet]

hey thank you for the info. i can't decide between the sti and the v1. i read about a swiss in this forum, who owned a v1 for six years an never got caught so far. on the other hand, with the sti i would be 100% stealthy.

i could get a used v1 for ~450 usd incl. concealed display + audio adapter. don't know yet if i will take the risk, since the sti would be about 800 usd here.

i already heard about those lidar guys, didn't one of them test his RD standing outside a police car with a RDD in it? hahaha he is the coolest guy on earth.

[nano]

Guten Abend Kollege!!

so i'm looking for a radar detector.

My recommendation for your area is definitely STI-R or V1. The big advantage of the V1 is, that he also detects the Traffic Observer, which are very common in Switzerland.

For maximum results put the STI-R in vertical position, due to the vertical polarisation of the Multanova 6F.

The STI Driver is one of the worst detector I've tested in the past. You will not be happy with it.

And don't forget about a laserjammer.

RDD are not used in your country.

You may want to look at guysoflidar.com for the latest, objective RD testing. Results were just published and just about everyone here is reading and commenting on them.

Unfortunately we can't assume the results from GOL for Europe. Different radars with different frequency, output power and polarization here in Europe give different results in the warning distance.

[Stealth Stalker]

Do we know for sure that Swiss police actually use radar detector detectors? If no, that opens up your options to some better choices.

[tjet]

Guten Abend Kollege!!

Guten morgen mein freund Nice to have someone like you here! Are you swiss too?

My recommendation for your area is definitely STI-R or V1. The big advantage of the V1 is, that he also detects the Traffic Observer, which are very common in Switzerland.

Yeah they are everywhere! For example zurich and agglomeration. Does that mean, the STI-R cannot detect Traffic Observers?

And does the V1 really warn you early enough? Since the Traffic Observers are LIDAR and i heard that the only possibility to be warned of a LIDAR is a reflection of another car.

And don't forget about a laserjammer.

That's indeed a good idea because I know that they own a Riegl laser gun in my area (Aargau). But for the beginning I will stay only with a RD.

Do we know for sure that Swiss police actually use radar detector detectors? If no, that opens up your options to some better choices.

I really don't know about this. Nano, are you sure they don't use RDD here? Please read the thread that I wrote in the forum Local & Regional Info. I can't post a link yet

[Stealth Stalker]

If LIDAR is a concern, then your ONLY hope is to get a jammer. No radar/laser detector can save you from laser. It works at the speed of light. By the time you have an alert, the camera already has you. No chance. There is a link to the LIDAR FAQ in my signature that may help you decide if this is for you. Good luck!

[rocky2]

If they are that strict against radar detectors and even POI's on your GPS. I am surprised that they don't have a Spectre in every car.

[nano]

Does that mean, the STI-R cannot detect Traffic Observers?

No Beltronics RD is able to detect the TO. It's the functional principle which makes the LIDAR impulses hard to detect.

And does the V1 really warn you early enough?

It depends on the local situation, but in the majority of cases: Yes

Since the Traffic Observers are LIDAR and i heard that the only possibility to be warned of a LIDAR is a reflection of another car.

No, the V1 needs a clear view. Lidar is different to radar.

Do we know for sure that Swiss police actually use radar detector detectors? If no, that opens up your options to some better choices.

I really don't know about this. Nano, are you sure they don't use RDD here?

Yes, I'm 99,99% sure that the don't use RDDs. Believe me, I would know.

[tjet]

Ok, thanks for all your answers, but i'm still a bit confused...

For example, if i would install a V1 behind my front bumper (inside, 0% visibility), let's say vertically because of the multanova, it would still have all funcionalites except for the laser detector (LIDAR). Right?

That would mean that my installation would be useless against Traffic Observers, which are quite common here. But this won't be a problem since these are fixed radars whose locations are known.