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[grudd61]

Hello,
Previously a Passport 8500 x50 owner, I decided to pass it on to my son, and upgrade to the Passport Max 2. Pricey, but should pay for itself in a sort amount of time.

[Veil Guy]

Hello,
Previously a Passport 8500 x50 owner, I decided to pass it on to my son, and upgrade to the Passport Max 2. Pricey, but should pay for itself in a sort amount of time.

Give the Max2 to your son, and stick with a winner, the 8500 x50.

VG

[grudd61]

I appreciate your candor. My experience with the max 2 thus far ( whopping 4 days) is that it is every bit as sensitive as the 8500 for actual threats ( 2 so far, in city) and has an earlier alerting point for these 2 known traps ( brand new 2015 ford taurus cruisers with x band !!). Earlier detection distance is in the ballpark of 100 yards or so. Even with a known strong falsing location, it alerts 10 seconds or so earlier. Is it worth the crazy price? no way in hell. However, the idea of upgradable firmware going forward AND the extended warranty should help protect me both ways. I'm just hoping that a majority of it's shortcomings are FIXABLE with firmware only upgrades!!
I was torn between several of the models from escort (redline in particular) and Valentine. I was put off by the numerous complaints about the valentines overly aggressive alerting, since 85% of my use is in city. Redline was my initial go to.

[CJR238]

Hello,
Previously a Passport 8500 x50 owner, I decided to pass it on to my son, and upgrade to the Passport Max 2. Pricey, but should pay for itself in a sort amount of time.

Give the Max2 to your son, and stick with a winner, the 8500 x50.

VG

Lol, X50 can't hold a candle to the Max2.

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[yellowcab]

Welome to the forum. Where do you encounter X band?

[Veil Guy]

Hello,
Previously a Passport 8500 x50 owner, I decided to pass it on to my son, and upgrade to the Passport Max 2. Pricey, but should pay for itself in a sort amount of time.

Give the Max2 to your son, and stick with a winner, the 8500 x50.

VG

Lol, X50 can't hold a candle to the Max2.

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Sure it can't. It is not uncommon that my x50 out alerts on 34.7 off-axis before or even when the Max doesn't.

The M3s and the V1 can as well. The Max, no. The X50 has far superior laser detector as well.

VG

[CJR238]

Hello,
Previously a Passport 8500 x50 owner, I decided to pass it on to my son, and upgrade to the Passport Max 2. Pricey, but should pay for itself in a sort amount of time.

Give the Max2 to your son, and stick with a winner, the 8500 x50.

VG

Lol, X50 can't hold a candle to the Max2.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Sure it can't. It is not uncommon that my x50 out alerts on 34.7 off-axis before or even when the Max doesn't.

The M3s and the V1 can as well. The Max, no. The X50 has far superior laser detector as well.

VG

I have seen how you treat you Max so i can understand why it does not work properly. But the Max definitely has the speed and range over the X50, even the older S7 antennas, though off axis is not quite as good.

V1 and M3's certainly beat the Max, though not by much in some instances. Yah, IDK what Escort was thinking with there laser detection, but i guess if you want to be protected against laser its better to have a jemmer.

[Veil Guy]

Hello,
Previously a Passport 8500 x50 owner, I decided to pass it on to my son, and upgrade to the Passport Max 2. Pricey, but should pay for itself in a sort amount of time.

Give the Max2 to your son, and stick with a winner, the 8500 x50.

VG

Lol, X50 can't hold a candle to the Max2.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Sure it can't. It is not uncommon that my x50 out alerts on 34.7 off-axis before or even when the Max doesn't.

The M3s and the V1 can as well. The Max, no. The X50 has far superior laser detector as well.

VG

I have seen how you treat you Max so i can understand why it does not work properly. But the Max definitely has the speed and range over the X50, even the older S7 antennas, though off axis is not quite as good.

V1 and M3's certainly beat the Max, though not by much in some instances. Yah, IDK what Escort was thinking with there laser detection, but i guess if you want to be protected against laser its better to have a jemmer.

Nonsense. That max went back for eval and tear down. I have two other Maxes and one Max2. I've got videos of the X50 kicking the new M5 on 34.7. And laser sensitivity is no contest. X50 hands down. The X50 has YEARS of refinements and improvements and it shows. Perhaps the Max(2) can grow up and improve over time. Escort suggests to me that's going to be the case. I hope so, especially now that LC is more directly involved. The fact the Whistlers (at $150) and even Cobras outperform on laser, is sad. Escort has always been erratic from model to model on laser. Why? I have no clue.

The jammer argument is a COP OUT. Many states don't even allow them, by law. If you fit a detector with laser detection, it damned well better be sufficient. At a 550-600 detector, its pathetic performance on laser is inexcusable, period. Besides a good laser detector with Veil can be sufficient a good number of times. I've got plenty of real-world footage to prove that point.

Come on, CJ! don't be an "apologist" for Escort. I know you are a HUGE fan (and feel they can do no wrong), BUT insist, always INSIST, they do better. Our community holding them to account (like with any company) is an essential feedback mechanism, especially since many many of their buyers, simply have no idea and only care for QUIET detector.

VG

[CJR238]

Hello,
Previously a Passport 8500 x50 owner, I decided to pass it on to my son, and upgrade to the Passport Max 2. Pricey, but should pay for itself in a sort amount of time.

Give the Max2 to your son, and stick with a winner, the 8500 x50.

VG

Lol, X50 can't hold a candle to the Max2.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Sure it can't. It is not uncommon that my x50 out alerts on 34.7 off-axis before or even when the Max doesn't.

The M3s and the V1 can as well. The Max, no. The X50 has far superior laser detector as well.

VG

I have seen how you treat you Max so i can understand why it does not work properly. But the Max definitely has the speed and range over the X50, even the older S7 antennas, though off axis is not quite as good.

V1 and M3's certainly beat the Max, though not by much in some instances. Yah, IDK what Escort was thinking with there laser detection, but i guess if you want to be protected against laser its better to have a jemmer.

Nonsense. That max went back for eval and tear down. I have two other Maxes and one Max2. I've got videos of the X50 kicking the new M5 on 34.7. And laser sensitivity is no contest. X50 hands down. The X50 has YEARS of refinements and improvements and it shows. Perhaps the Max(2) can grow up and improve over time. Escort suggests to me that's going to be the case. I hope so, especially now that LC is more directly involved. The fact the Whistlers (at $150) and even Cobras outperform on laser, is sad. Escort has always been erratic from model to model on laser. Why? I have no clue.

The jammer argument is a COP OUT. Many states don't even allow them, by law. If you fit a detector with laser detection, it damned well better be sufficient. At a 550-600 detector, its pathetic performance on laser is inexcusable, period. Besides a good laser detector with Veil can be sufficient a good number of times. I've got plenty of real-world footage to prove that point.

Come on, CJ! don't be an "apologist" for Escort. I know you are a HUGE fan (and feel they can do no wrong), BUT insist, always INSIST, they do better. Our community holding them to account (like with any company) is an essential feedback mechanism, especially since many many of their buyers, simply have no idea and only care for QUIET detector.

VG

I can show you multiple tests and videos of the Max beating a V1, let alone an X50 M4. I too hope they improve the Max but to suggest a X50 is better than a Max in detection capability's is simply not true.

Sure i agree Escorts piss poor laser detection on the Max should be better, but even if it was perfect its still going to do little to noting for you if you encounter a real laser trap.
Suggesting buying a jammer is not a cop out, its a reality that has to be considered even if they are illegal. Detection alone wont provide any real consistent protection. Even adding Veil has its limitations, but definitely an option for one who can get jammers.

So though i am an Escort fan i don't just blindly make suggestions on hopes of what they do, i suggest based on what there current ability's are and what would be the best option. And that's if you buy any Escort RD and you need laser protection, you need to buy a jammer.

You can insist all you want, but if that does not solve you problem what do you do then? Ask CJR.

[grudd61]

Thank you for the welcome. In Bloomington, IN. Musta had X on the brain for some reason, I meant to type K, in the new Taurus patrol cars here. Got scanned again this AM on the way to work.