SICK OF LI

[noorudeenshakur]

Dear noorudeenshakur,

X 2

Congratulations.

Yours sincerely
Arbos

Thanks Arbos.

[lukenosewalker]

Agreed.

But the LPP and AL reps were banned for doing what LI is now doing.

Is that fair?

For just answering questions about how the unit works? Come on now.

You joined May 2007, I suggest you look over old posts...

[noTe]

Agreed.

But the LPP and AL reps were banned for doing what LI is now doing.

Is that fair?

For just answering questions about how the unit works? Come on now.

You joined May 2007, I suggest you look over old posts...

It's not about in the past, it's about now. They are not breaking any rules now.

[lukenosewalker]

Agreed.

But the LPP and AL reps were banned for doing what LI is now doing.

Is that fair?

For just answering questions about how the unit works? Come on now.

You joined May 2007, I suggest you look over old posts...

It's not about in the past, it's about now. They are not breaking any rules now.

No, you're right, they're not necessarily breaking any rules per se, but LPP reps apparently were, which is why there were banned, which is why these good questions are being asked now...

[noorudeenshakur]

It's not about in the past, it's about now. They are not breaking any rules now.

can someone give me a link for the LPP, ive searched google and a lot of other places and i couldn't find it....

It is against forum rules to provide this information because

1: There is a patent infrigement problem with their product(s)
2: Also the people that have been selling them nor the manufature have any product liabilty insurance that I am aware of

I ordered from Croatia. Not sure if i can post price on here.

I appreciated that you did not provide the additional information, but I don't appreciate the private messages that others are sending back and forth on the forum to bypass the rules.

Guys please do not put me or my company into jepordy for more legal action. If I have to ban people again I will

Attorneys are just too expensive

Was it a matter of economics that Ivan chose for not obtaining FDA approval and his own patent, or is it because his product could not pass FDA testing and that it is a direct infringement on other patents? Perhaps we will never know unless Ivan steps forward to address these concerns.

Caveat emptor or buyer beware....

(referring to LI)

Also I left out one important part in my first post and that is liabilty insurance. I'm sure that none of the "back door dealers" from LI will not have any and if something happens (eye safety) you the driver will be holding the bag....

If its against the forum rules then why is it ok for LI(being allegedly just as patent infringing as LPP and AL) to persist but LPP and AL guys get banned for doing so?

[interceptor]

I would love to see this too

Would they get banned again is my question?

What is your opinion on that? Do you think they would?

I know that there are some USA LPP dealers in here, they just never make posts that say they are or sell outta the forums like LI does because they have their own forums for that.

With that said...will one of you LPP or AL dealers step up and represent your product like LI.

It seems that you now have the green light here as blinder dude and veil guy dont run the place anymore.

Only then can we see truly if there is a double standard with LI.

Hope to see LPP and AL come out of the woodwork again and be a force in here like LI.

One thing that would be clear is the customer service and level of support/class shown by LPP can not be beat yet by LI.

Thats from my personal experience with both companies.

LPP definitely has a lot of class and customer support that is unmatched by LI.

For me that goes further than slightly better performance.

all i will say to this is ROTFL.

[IRCMUSA]

I would love to see this too

Would they get banned again is my question?

What is your opinion on that? Do you think they would?

I know that there are some USA LPP dealers in here, they just never make posts that say they are or sell outta the forums like LI does because they have their own forums for that.

With that said...will one of you LPP or AL dealers step up and represent your product like LI.

It seems that you now have the green light here as blinder dude and veil guy dont run the place anymore.

Only then can we see truly if there is a double standard with LI.

Hope to see LPP and AL come out of the woodwork again and be a force in here like LI.

One thing that would be clear is the customer service and level of support/class shown by LPP can not be beat yet by LI.

Thats from my personal experience with both companies.

LPP definitely has a lot of class and customer support that is unmatched by LI.

For me that goes further than slightly better performance.

all i will say to this is ROTFL.

Anyone want to make some donations so I can "donate" money to purchase a LI. we will do a scientific experiment
In infrared to see which one has better detection.
http://www.cooleysllc.com/detect.html
We will perform the same test but on bigger cardboard.

First off Laser diodes don’t mean $hit detection is the key to successful jamming.
I took a blinder single head m-25 and stuck a piece of electrical tape over half of the head, so in a sense I disabled half of the jamming leds. I put the head right above the license plate so positive laser detection was certain. I shot (only the plate) guess what happened with a PL2 it was a JTG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn8G_j_TSrQ


So we can perform the same detection test we did with the LPP and blinder only now I will have a better camera.
So if you guys want to see a put up or shut up test, make some donations so I can in turn “donate” money to buy a LI for testing.

Donations that are made in the amount of 40 dollars or more will enter them into a drawing I will give away the LI to the lucky person.

[interceptor]

this tests are done many times..

this is what i sugest GOL to do..

Also we come to the same problem, WHO is doing the test, if i do it, it is not credible, if LPP retailer do it again it is not fer, if you do it also it is not far, because not all is believing all...

this is endles loop of testing and trust...

i know for a fact what kind of hardware is running LPP ( i have a part of the team and one of designers of so i know what i am talking about) and also i know what is LI running... this is why i said ROTFL..

Maybe a slight diference in performance now, but in future... you will see... i sure hope new LTI have something like XR in background.. and again i know why i am saying this...

[IRCMUSA]

this tests are done many times..

this is what i sugest GOL to do..

Also we come to the same problem, WHO is doing the test, if i do it, it is not credible, if LPP retailer do it again it is not fer, if you do it also it is not far, because not all is believing all...

this is endles loop of testing and trust...

i know for a fact what kind of hardware is running LPP ( i have a part of the team and one of designers of so i know what i am talking about) and also i know what is LI running... this is why i said ROTFL..

Maybe a slight diference in performance now, but in future... you will see... i sure hope new LTI have something like XR in background.. and again i know why i am saying this...

this test are done many times hummm
who done them may times beside me?

[noorudeenshakur]

IRCMUSA set a new level of testing with their IR video jammer tests.

I trust his tests are honest, so much so that if someone wants to lend all the guns to him Ill donate a LI to him myself for testing.

Noory.