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    Default Operation Question

    When the rear of the car gets hit does the system tell you rear vs front?

    If it does get hit from the rear what should you do? If you jam on the brakes to slow down doesn't the LEO see this and wonder why your brake lights are going on? Will this alert him to a possible jam? Especially if you're alone on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexdrozd View Post
    When the rear of the car gets hit does the system tell you rear vs front?

    If it does get hit from the rear what should you do? If you jam on the brakes to slow down doesn't the LEO see this and wonder why your brake lights are going on? Will this alert him to a possible jam? Especially if you're alone on the road.
    No, there is presently not a separate Alert for front or rear detection.

    The proper use of a LCM is, when you receive the alert you are being painted, take your foot off the gas and allow drag and friction to slow your car down then turn the LCM off thereby allowing the LIDAR operator to then acquire your now reduced and legal speed.

    Unless RADAR Detectors are Illegal in your state, last I checked, stepping on the brakes, an indication that you have a RD, is not a violation of the law. Combined with the proper use of a LCM noted above, you will be fine.

    Cliff

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    Sorry Cliff but I have to disagree with you on the “proper LCM”. Many of my laser hits have been pretty close range forward quarter and power off drag only decels would have required the jammer to jam for many seconds.

    As a sports car guy yourself you are keenly aware of the C/D our cars have and idle decels are not impressive. I can test later this weekend but I would bet an 80MPH-55MPH idle decel in a 997 would take a lot longer than I would like to wait. A lower speed 60MPH-35MPH would take even longer.

    My LCM technique is: hard on the brakes, hard decel, secure the jammer. It’s worked in both Porsche's numerous times.

    Of course SA is critical. I can typically out brake almost all vehicles out there so knowing when someone is on your 6 is paramount.

    Walt
    Last edited by WaltBurkett; 01-05-2012 at 03:08 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaltBurkett View Post
    Sorry Cliff but I have to disagree with you on the “proper LCM”. Many of my laser hits have been pretty close range forward quarter and power off drag only decels would have required the jammer to jam for many seconds.
    Ok, if your driving UNDER 100 - 150 MPH........

    Cliff

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    Walt, aren't you concerned about the Leo seeing your brakes come on?

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    Not if he is shooting from ahead. He may, however, see your nose dive.

    Cliff

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    No, my concern is shooting from the rear, especially if you don't know where he is.

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    If you live in a State/Provence where RD and LCM are legal, this is not an issue. If you do, then the Laser Interceptor has a mute wire provision that can be used in conjunction with a relay to control the 12V to your brake lights. If you have rear sensors, they will detect LIDAR and the mute wire will then provide a ground to the brake light deactivation relay (user supplied) effectively removing power to your brake light(s) during detection and jamming.

    Cliff

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    If you do that (decel quickly) here in IA you will then get a ticket for reckless driving, if they see the nose dive. They may not have a speed on you, but you'll still end up with a fine.

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    Default Re: Operation Question

    Of the 10 or so engagements I have encountered all have been forward quarter. About 1/2 of those I saw the LEO before he saw me and or was targeting me, so I had a little extra time to react. There were however 3 or 4 that were a total full on surprise and I needed to slow quickly due to close proximity. Hitting the brakes is a natural reaction when seeing an LOE or getting an alert from say a V1 or other detector so IF a LEO even noticed it I'm not so sure he would be surprised by it. In my particular cases it was not an issue.
    As for disabling the rear brakes lights,,,,good luck with that. Your brake lights are the primary identifier that you are slowing down. For many that are easily distracted, on the phone, doing their makeup, etc, they may not otherwise identify that all of a sudden they are closing rapidly towards you. IF they hit you, you just caused an accident. If you were to get caught with that setup it would be a very bad thing.
    Here is a scenario for you: You hit the brakes, your brake lights do not come on. The driver behind you notices a huge closure rate at the last second and swerves to avoid hitting you. She quickly loses control of her mini-van loaded with 5 kids on the way to the mall. It crosses the grass divider and goes head on with another vehicle going the other way. The off duty LEO, TSA, FBI, CIA, or whomever has credibility saw the whole thing and noticed your brake lights never illuminated. Get the point!
    Last edited by WaltBurkett; 01-06-2012 at 04:32 PM.

 

 

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