Anti-laser punch throughs vs. Drive-smart no-show.

[JTW]

Hang the right company already!

The Anti-Laser Pro-Park 6.5 has been on sale. Many on this forum have mysteriously received the pro-parks for free, but none the less the Pro-parks have been for sale. Drive-Smart is taking pre-orders and nobody on this board has claimed to have given their money to them. Why would anyone make a preorder w/o seeing some tests first anyway?

Consumer risk. That's what we should be talking about!
Many people LOVE to bitc* about Drive-Smart not sending a unit. If nobody is even buying the DS no risk is posed to the consumer. It's not like someone bought a DS expecting JTG every time, only to find out it failed. How is it constructive to the content of this board to whine about a company when other companies are posing a real risk NOW?! Anti-laser is selling retail units and it seems the main theme of the board is Anti-laser is God! You're all crazy for thinking this! Not one single blind retail purchase test exists. Let me repeat myself. Not one single blind retail purchase test exists anywhere in the world to prove the Anti-laser is better then the Lidatek or Blinder. All the units have come directly from the factory and in most cases they were given at a discount or totally for free.

The facts according to StealthJamal:

Unfornately my car did not do so good against the Laser Atlanta Speed Laser normal mode and Kustom Pro Laser III. I had punch through at about 700 to 800 feet on headlights. Once I had punch through and 690 somthing on my plate! Time to re do my laser countermeasure, possibly add another transceiver head since I have a full size silver car.

What do we have here guys! We have a company taking money from people, shipping them product, and this God-like laser jammer gets 800 foot punch throughs? WTF guys! It makes no logical sense to spend all your breath about DS when Anti-Laser obviously doesn't work so well afterall huh. I said I wanted angle shots and now you have the truth.

Go ahead and bash drive-smart. Fill the threads with constant child-like jabs for not showing up, but while you're doing this your neighbor is buying an anti-laser and thinking he's buying something grand when really it's just some super hyped up over rated jammer that doesn't perform like everyone thought. All of you should really sit back, take a break, and figure out what's really important. We've got a company selling jammers with major punch through, but none of us are warning others to be wary of it. It's a fricken shame and I can't be too surprised about it considering that alot of people got these things for free. Who cares if you got it for free huh? Well if you paid for that dam* thing you'd make a huge stink about it.

A no-show is dissapointing, but poor performance by a current shipping jammer is what we all should be talking about to warn our neighbor. Drive-smart will have their hanging if they do poorly when the jammer comes out. In the mean time lets stop the immature jabs and stick to what's most important....watching out for our fellow consumers.

JTW

[Longsnowsm]

First off I am not a AL proponent, I haven't recieved any free products, and my opinion has not been swayed in the least to buy a product by the prototype tests. I am impressed by what we see in the prototypes, but that isn't reality for the consumer. Just as you just stated we haven't seen the retail unit tested. StealthJamal admitted his unit came from Croatia and is not a retail sample either. So we still have not seen a blind retail purchased unit tested even after the GOL test results get posted, so I have no idea what your getting excited about as this was not a retail unit. I think this thread is yet another jump to conclusions exercise. I am too old and too fat to do much jumping...

So with AL I am going to wait and see what we get and then start asking questions. I want to know when we can see a test of a retail purchased AL product so we can start to draw some conclusions. Right now nobody has enough information to assume anything. The prototypes that we are seeing at GOL can only give you an idea of what something might be capable of, but until you see the real thing your gambling.

Sadly there are some folks on this forum that have purchased the LPP(AL) before seeing real testing. That said, I can only hope they knew what they were buying and willing to assume that risk. Let me repeat myself: There has been no testing of shipping retail product with the AL or LPP, or whatever they are going by today let alone the version confusion. This isn't like the Blinder fiasco where it's abilities were all the rage, tested, and proven with retail units... Then to find out some of the claims were bold face lies. That was with shipping retail product that all of those big claims were made and found to be BS. Yet I still see people trying to call what ended up happening with the replacement units a customer service success! Get real! Only because Roy stepped up and worked out a deal did anyone get their Blinder fixed... Let's see folks that just found out that they bought a Blinder that doesn't do what was claimed now step up and demand a replacement. That would be fun to watch. :twisted:

So lets yet once again caveat that all testing done by GOL on the AL product has been on prototypes and no retail versions have yet been beaten up, spit out, and otherwise abused by members of this forum in a way that proves or disproves its ability to jam anything.

I don't have to wait and see with NSS. We could write a very humorous book on NSS and all the BS we have heard. It is time for NSS to shutup and build the product, get it in the retail channels, and then lets get excited about a test. Until then I really don't want to hear another word from NSS.

Longsnowsm

[midd]

What kills me most about Drive Smart was that just two weeks ago, they were waiting on a new casing and then the product would be shipped for retail. Now suddenly its a software problem. I'm well aware that new problems can arise at any time. But come now!!

Let's wait for the results to be posted before we critique the others. I'm tired of the same long winded posts about this company can't do this or this company is going to do that. Its one thing to be a comsumer advocate. Its another to perch yourself on a soap box over and over.

[go.mouse]

Wasn't GOL testing the AL7 provided by Antilaser? Perhaps steathJamal was just doing some testing on his own. This needs to be clarified.

Since steathJamal mentioned punchthrough with LA gun, we can do some LPP testing when you visit Vancouver, JTW.

[Longsnowsm]

Mouse that is correct. Stealth's isn't the same as the AL7 that GOL is testing. Either way the units came from AL and are not shipping retail product.

Longsnowsm

[JTW]

First off I am not a AL proponent, I haven't recieved any free products, and my opinion has not been swayed in the least to buy a product by the prototype tests. I am impressed by what we see in the prototypes, but that isn't reality for the consumer. Just as you just stated we haven't seen the retail unit tested. StealthJamal admitted his unit came from Croatia and is not a retail sample either. So we still have not seen a blind retail purchased unit tested even after the GOL test results get posted, so I have no idea what your getting excited about as this was not a retail unit. I think this thread is yet another jump to conclusions exercise. I am too old and too fat to do much jumping...

So with AL I am going to wait and see what we get and then start asking questions. I want to know when we can see a test of a retail purchased AL product so we can start to draw some conclusions. Right now nobody has enough information to assume anything. The prototypes that we are seeing at GOL can only give you an idea of what something might be capable of, but until you see the real thing your gambling.

Sadly there are some folks on this forum that have purchased the LPP(AL) before seeing real testing. That said, I can only hope they knew what they were buying and willing to assume that risk. Let me repeat myself: There has been no testing of shipping retail product with the AL or LPP, or whatever they are going by today let alone the version confusion. This isn't like the Blinder fiasco where it's abilities were all the rage, tested, and proven with retail units... Then to find out some of the claims were bold face lies. That was with shipping retail product that all of those big claims were made and found to be BS. Yet I still see people trying to call what ended up happening with the replacement units a customer service success! Get real! Only because Roy stepped up and worked out a deal did anyone get their Blinder fixed... Let's see folks that just found out that they bought a Blinder that doesn't do what was claimed now step up and demand a replacement. That would be fun to watch. :twisted:

So lets yet once again caveat that all testing done by GOL on the AL product has been on prototypes and no retail versions have yet been beaten up, spit out, and otherwise abused by members of this forum in a way that proves or disproves its ability to jam anything.

I don't have to wait and see with NSS. We could write a very humorous book on NSS and all the BS we have heard. It is time for NSS to shutup and build the product, get it in the retail channels, and then lets get excited about a test. Until then I really don't want to hear another word from NSS.

Longsnowsm

If anything a non-blind purchase should have better performance then the retail unit because the manufacturer knows the unit will be tested. You're being a hypocrit here. You say in your reply that none of these tests show us anything because they're not blind purchased tests, and then you slam DS for not sending a unit to a test that doesn't even represent a retail units performance? You can't have both sides Longsnowm. It doesn't make sense.

Bottom line is Jamal's 6.5 did poorly and it's common sense that jammer should have been made with the highest quality control.

Manufacturers do pre-tests before SML tests it. Why wouldn't you? DS tested the unit before it was supposed to go out and it didn't work up to the standard they wanted. DS would definitely be the NSS company if they sent a defective unit. It makes no business sense. Get over it. I would have done the exact same thing.

JTW

[JTW]

Mouse that is correct. Stealth's isn't the same as the AL7 that GOL is testing. Either way the units came from AL and are not shipping retail product.

Longsnowsm

So funny. Like a manufacturer is going to send some crap unit to a test review. It would be in their best interest to make sure that jammer is the best they could possibly make it, yet it failed.

AL said the only difference between the 6.5 and the 7 is the ability to turn off the parking sensor and some other thing that has nothing to do with jamming.

JTW

[JTW]

I'm well aware that new problems can arise at any time. But come now!!.

Midd, haven't seen you in a while. I know in your little world if you hope and pray hard enough things will work out exactly how you want them to. I know when I was younger I'd tell my mommy one month before christmas I wanted this or that just to make sure everything went smoothly. Well I hate to break it to ya, but his is real life Midd. Just because a delay didn't satify your wants doesn't mean it's not a legitimate problem.

But come now!!.

Um no. But come what? Lets get the magic elves to make you what you want right now. I'm calling them midd. The phone is in my hand.

JTW

[Ford_Focus_05]

Thanks for bringing this to light JTW...looks like things are going to get hot!!!

[Crash]

Thanks for bringing this to light JTW...looks like things are going to get hot!!!

And it looks like I´m going to buy two extra heads for my Lidatek and forget about the LPP.