1 or 2 Diode Jammers on a VW Beetle

**fluffyx** · 03-15-2007, 09:51 AM

They love laser in Atlanta, so a major deciding factor in what my next vehicle will be is how "stealthy" it is against laser.

Will a (dark) VW Beetle need two diode jammer heads on the front? Will one suffice? I assume that, for rear protection, I would need the same number on the rear as the front, since the front is quite a bit like the rear...

Also, is it advisable to put a (non-reflective) bra on the front to hide the (reflective) paint?

Thankfully, I don't need a front plate!

**Flitsservice.nl** · 03-15-2007, 09:59 AM

One is more then enough, if you have a licenseplate in front. I have a Renault Laguna ( http://www.renault.nl/RenaultSITe/pu...PH2_K74/p1.jsp ) and one is more then enough

No licenseplate? Then they will target headlights, so you will need 2.

**TSi+WRX** · 03-15-2007, 10:19 AM

^ I agree.

However, I also will say that yes, although 1 should suffice, it's definitely not a guaranty - and that depending on the exact circumstances of your encounter, you may receive less-than-necessary protection.

In areas where laser enforcement is more the norm than the exception, or, alternatively, when you know that you will be encountering equipment against which the jammers have a harder time against and/or that you will be encountering extreme short-range scenarioes or rear-enforcement scenarioes, then it's best to take proactive measures to insure that you have true "best odds" - and this may mean a hefty dollar-amount investment when it comes to jammers.

I'm planning a trip back to Atlanta, soon, and I'm actually trying to decide between spending the money on an additional LPP, or saving the money I need for my new summer tires....

**TSi+WRX** · 03-16-2007, 10:49 AM

^ Well, I did it.....

Since I'm about 75% certain we'll be driving my car down to Atlanta in April, I went ahead and boned-up on my frontal protection, and bought myself another LPP.

Once it arrives, I'll be set up with dual LPPs front, and a single rear - front/rear on separate control boxes so that I can maintain selective control.

That should give me best-odds on any front-enforcement scenarios.

**fluffyx** · 03-16-2007, 11:07 AM

Thanks for the replies :-) ! It looks like two LPP heads is advisable.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how and where to mount an LPP on a beetle? Is it even possible? There's not much of a grille... Would there be some sort of retractible mounting system that could emerge from the grille and elevate the heads to a proper level for defense?

**TSi+WRX** · 03-16-2007, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by fluffyx

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how and where to mount an LPP on a beetle? Is it even possible? There's not much of a grille... Would there be some sort of retractible mounting system that could emerge from the grille and elevate the heads to a proper level for defense?

I think that mounting one off to either side of your front plate, in the same horizontal plane as that of the fogs (but getting the heads as high as possible) would be more than good enough, particularly if you're dedicating both heads to the job of frontal protection.

I would imagine that it's somewhat remotely possible that a potential PT spot could exist at the "apex" of your center-mass (i.e. windshield, near the roofline) due to your very tall greenhouse, but with a front plate serving as "bait," I think you'll get protection that's as good as it can possibly get.

**Event Horizon** · 03-16-2007, 03:20 PM

hey fluff thats a beautiful Turbo S!! I wish I had that one. I have 1.8T Y2k new beetle as my regular car!

Do you hang out on the newbeetle.org forums too? Fluffy sounds familiar.. 8)

**fluffyx** · 03-16-2007, 04:04 PM

Thanks for your advice, TSi+WRX!

I won't have a front plate (nobody in Georgia or Florida has them), so I think that officers aim for the headlights. The fog lights are WAY DOWN LOW (those little lights by the headlights are turn signals). Would an LPP head mounted by the foglights really suffice to protect against a hit on the headlights??

It seems to me that this location (see photoshopped image) would be "optimal" for someone with no front plate, if it were only possible to mount heads there without screaming "STEAL ME!" That's why I asked about some sort of retractible system.

**fluffyx** · 03-16-2007, 04:18 PM

Thanks, Event Horizon!

No, this is not (yet) my vehicle; I currently am in a 1998 MkIII VW GTI. I've been eyeing the Turbo S for a bit, though. I'm deciding between a Beetle Turbo S, a Turbo Saab, or an Audi with Quattro. I prefer the appearance (and maneuverability) of the Beetle, though. I've driven a couple Beetles, and they handle as beautifully as the GTI (since they're built on the same frame).

How do you like your 1.8t? I'm sure it's a dream to drive. Have you had any maintenance issues? From what I've heard, they're solid.

**TSi+WRX** · 03-16-2007, 05:43 PM

Hey fluffy -

No need to thank me

ops: I'm just a fellow hobbyist like you...just glad to help others where I've myself been helped in the past.

I agree, those fogs are "down there," but if you can nestle the LPP heads inboard of those units (or even outboard, on the other side of the splitter column between the central lower grill and the two flanking ducts), I think that'll still be OK.

The LPP and other diode-based jammers are much more powerful than their LED-based counterparts, so you should have some slack to play with.

Check and see what the pros recommend over at the LaserProPark Support Forums: http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=22946