LPP or AL8?
Why?
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LPP of AL8?
LPP or AL8?
Why?
Re: LPP of AL8?
LPP will give you better support service, and of course better protection. 8)Originally Posted by RadarRx
I keep reading about these. Is there a list of vendors somewhere for both of these? Or is that not allowed to be posted?
If not allowed, please PM me.
Thanks
I'd have answered the opposite....
As LPP is a copy of AL8 with cheaper components inside. Mount break is not Stainless Steel for example, etc...
I had them in hand.
Only exception would be for eventually customs facilities with LPP maybe...
Forden
LPP does not protect better. They are no cheaper. Support at Antilaser is very good, and they are in the process of trying to obtain a stateside rep.
Don't let people feed you garbage. Far too many people on this forum push LPP. Look at the GOL tests and Judge for yourself.
I will be testing my Antilaser G8 Dual Head unit again this weekend against an LTI Ultralyte 200LR and an LTI Marksman 20/20. I will also post video this time
P.S. Customs have NEVER been a problem for me and I have never paid duty fees, that is a bunch of scare tactic crap
Re: LPP of AL8?
Incorect. AntiLaser is the original, has more up to date software and hardware, and it's also cheaper. LPP is a clone of AntiLaser's older model.LPP will give you better support service, and of course better protection. 8)
Both will work extrememly well at jamming laser guns. But why buy a Laser Pro Park when it cost more $$ and it's a rip off of AntiLaser?
AntiLaser provides good support, the only down side it that if you have to send your AntiLaser unit in it has to be shipped to Croatia. But I think in the future maybe AntiLaser will have a USA rep.
Also, AntiLaser is the company that invented the secondary parking sensor feature. KMPH company named their product (which they clone from AntiLaser) Laser Pro Park to give the appeal it is a parking sensor.
As I said both the AntiLaser and LPP jam laser guns well.
The day AL has a US rep, and if they keep the same prices, then I'm sure they would probably become more widespread here in the US. How much is it for shipping from Croatia, I've always wondered. Actually, I don't know how much an AL is :? I know, I know, you can't say...
I totally agree.
The LPP and AL are pretty much quivalent products when it comes to "jamming performance."
To me, the edge that AL holds at any particular time is due to a temporal lead in its hardware and software revisions, and is only a temporary lead until LPP catches-on with the same revisions, typically a couple of weeks to a month later (why is this so? you're free to draw your own conclusions).
As for the LPP, it's definitely not any less expensive than the AL. As a matter of fact, the AL can be had for less, even with shipping costs added (without factoring-in the wildcard of courier Customs brokerage fees and/or taxes/duties).
I agree, AL support seems to have been very, very good so far, and I do hope that they continue in this fashion. The only disappointment, for me, was the way they handled brother Stlouisx50's repeat return claim (for his second set of defective heads, per the "6-month time bomb" issue cited by RacerX and others), but hopefully, that was an exception.Support at Antilaser is very good, and they are in the process of trying to obtain a stateside rep.
What can be said, though, is that LPP already has established North American support - and now also has a direct Stateside representative, too.
I agree - although I don't "push" any product, I do feel that there's definitely a sense of antagonism between the "AL camp" and the "LPP camp." Why this should be so, particularly on the level of individual end-hobbyists with no interest in either item in terms of profit/gain, I honestly have no clue. :?Don't let people feed you garbage. Far too many people on this forum push LPP. Look at the GOL tests and Judge for yourself.
^ I must disagree with you here, I DO NOT believe that this is any kind of "scare tactic," and I do think that it is a real and valid concern.P.S. Customs have NEVER been a problem for me and I have never paid duty fees, that is a bunch of scare tactic crap
One of my previous hobbies entailed routine import of items through both Euro as well as Far-Eastern countries. Individual shipments could range anything from just a few small components (the package would be less than the size of a 12-oz. soda bottle, and the total cost would be less than USD 20) to hundreds or even thousands of dollars - and a rather big and bulky package, of course.
The one thing that was NEVER consistent was if I'd be charged brokerage fees and/or taxes/duties. No matter how the packages were declared/labeled.
It was a true and complete wildcard, and it is based on this experience that I bring up the *potential* shipping concerns to our fellow jammer seekers.
Certainly, it may never happen to you (particularly in the case of a single-purchase scenario, the odds are strictly in your favor) - even if you engage in repeat shipping (although there was at least one member here who, at one point, did run into customs inspection delays with a repeat shipment of the AL) - but it *can* happen, and if you do it often enough, it *will* happen.
To say that this is a scare tactic simply isn't fair.
^ I'm not sure at all about the internal componentry. I haven't examined them, internally. I think that all that can be said at this point regarding the quality of the components is that there is/was a known production defect issue with the AL G8 (search for "6 month time bomb," cross with RacerX as the author), which may or may not have been rectified with the latest iteration of the G8. So far, with the exception of the very first batch of LPPs (reportedly then Croatia-made), this has not been a concern of the LPP. Whether or not this will turn out to be an issue later, I don't think that anyone can yet say.
The LPPs mounting bracket is indeed not stainless steel, this is definitely not on-par with products of this price-range.
To me, both purchases carry their respective liabilities. It's up to the end-user to sort out which aspect of what concern is more important to him/her. There's no easy winner here.
^ I must disagree with you here, I DO NOT believe that this is any kind of "scare tactic," and I do think that it is a real and valid concern.P.S. Customs have NEVER been a problem for me and I have never paid duty fees, that is a bunch of scare tactic crap
One of my previous hobbies entailed routine import of items through both Euro as well as Far-Eastern countries. Individual shipments could range anything from just a few small components (the package would be less than the size of a 12-oz. soda bottle, and the total cost would be less than USD 20) to hundreds or even thousands of dollars - and a rather big and bulky package, of course.
The one thing that was NEVER consistent was if I'd be charged brokerage fees and/or taxes/duties. No matter how the packages were declared/labeled.
It was a true and complete wildcard, and it is based on this experience that I bring up the *potential* shipping concerns to our fellow jammer seekers.
Certainly, it may never happen to you (particularly in the case of a single-purchase scenario, the odds are strictly in your favor) - even if you engage in repeat shipping (although there was at least one member here who, at one point, did run into customs inspection delays with a repeat shipment of the AL) - but it *can* happen, and if you do it often enough, it *will* happen.
To say that this is a scare tactic simply isn't fair. [/quote]
When I got V1 (in June this year) from USA,I had to pay 18%customs duties on V1 price.So,if the package goes from Croatia to USA,you don't have to pay customs?(according to Mthman30) :shock:
A tip for customs : always ask from the carrier for an harmonized code giving them a short description of the product , if he gives you a code implying customs , ask him to find another category ....you see...do this before ordering and have those infos at the moment of ordering ...save hassle and $.
Any international carrier will give you this info.
Then tell your seller to write on the invoice / and way bill this code with the description (pertaining to the code)
Always use international priority , the most expensive , then the brokerage fees will be included.
As for the 6 months bomb/AL8 , mine dual (august 2006) was exchanged feb07 ... the 3 beeps were due to a leaking front lens ... since then =no problema.They improoved their glue/design (silicone was problematic)
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