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    Default Testng a jammer

    I wanted to run some logic by everyone. I can set off my Jammer via my TIVO remote, I can also set off my Bel STI as well using it. If I put the detector in front of my car and set off the Jammer would you expect that the jamming sequence from the jammer would set off the Radar detector? I also tried the same thing with an inferred camera - I could see the remote but nothing coming out of the jammer even though it set off the warning on the jammer. I assume something is wrong with my jammer - is this logic sound? Any advice would be appreciated!

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    Sounds like something is wrong with your jammer. I'd contact customer support. Which jammer do you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by repeter
    Sounds like something is wrong with your jammer. I'd contact customer support. Which jammer do you have?
    LI, I sent a note to Ivan for some help. I am sure they will fix me up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailor_david
    If I put the detector in front of my car and set off the Jammer would you expect that the jamming sequence from the jammer would set off the Radar detector?
    Yes, I would, but the jammer and/or detector manufacturers should know best. I would think that either the detector or the jammer may have a problem. How does the detector react to real laser encounters?

    Quote Originally Posted by sailor_david
    I also tried the same thing with an inferred camera - I could see the remote but nothing coming out of the jammer even though it set off the warning on the jammer. I assume something is wrong with my jammer - is this logic sound? Any advice would be appreciated!
    The IR camera is less likely to pick up the very narrow IR emitted from a laser diode (as in the LI jammer) than the wider IR from a LED (as in your Tivo remote), so this may not be a good test.

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    Not actually correct.

    IR camera, eg Sony nightshot or CCTV cameras, will pick up the 904nm emissions of a jammer.

    For example many CCTV cameras that you can even buy off ebay will pick up IR from 730nm to 950nm.

    It is possible (although Ivan may clarify) that your LI detects an IR emission but because there is no pulsing to this IR source, may have no reason to emit anything.

    Radar Detectors (afaik) usually respond to any type of IR they receive.

    So, your jammer detects the emission, but wont emit as there is no pulse to produce.

    That's my thinking on this, but you never know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles charlie charles
    Not actually correct.

    IR camera, eg Sony nightshot or CCTV cameras, will pick up the 904nm emissions of a jammer.

    For example many CCTV cameras that you can even buy off ebay will pick up IR from 730nm to 950nm.

    It is possible (although Ivan may clarify) that your LI detects an IR emission but because there is no pulsing to this IR source, may have no reason to emit anything.

    Radar Detectors (afaik) usually respond to any type of IR they receive.

    So, your jammer detects the emission, but wont emit as there is no pulse to produce.

    That's my thinking on this, but you never know!
    This isn't correct. Radar detectors also alert to pulses the same way laser jammer detection recognizes IR. For example, an escort 8500 X50 will NOT alert to a Laser Atlanta when operated in stealth mode(not enough pulses in the pulse train), but when operated in normal mode the escort will detect. If detectors didn't rely on a pulse rate they would constantly be going off in sunlight.

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    Or maybe the LI is smart enough to know that the Tivo remote IS NOT a valid threat!!!
    Test your system with a Lidar gun.
    8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMoth
    Or maybe the LI is smart enough to know that the Tivo remote IS NOT a valid threat!!!
    Test your system with a Lidar gun.
    8)
    It actually goes off and says "Warning - Ultralite detected jamming sequence activated". So I guess the TVIO has a similar wavelength. The STI is working and does go off for other laser encounters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailor_david
    Quote Originally Posted by PMoth
    Or maybe the LI is smart enough to know that the Tivo remote IS NOT a valid threat!!!
    Test your system with a Lidar gun.
    8)
    It actually goes off and says "Warning - Ultralite detected jamming sequence activated". So I guess the TVIO has a similar wavelength. The STI is working and does go off for other laser encounters.
    Ivan said that when it says "Ultralyte detected" it jams with a generic algorithm. If your referring to the 904 nm wavelength, you are correct. It does not mean that the remote has the same pulse rate as the Ultralyte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratebay
    Quote Originally Posted by charles charlie charles
    Not actually correct.

    IR camera, eg Sony nightshot or CCTV cameras, will pick up the 904nm emissions of a jammer.

    For example many CCTV cameras that you can even buy off ebay will pick up IR from 730nm to 950nm.

    It is possible (although Ivan may clarify) that your LI detects an IR emission but because there is no pulsing to this IR source, may have no reason to emit anything.

    Radar Detectors (afaik) usually respond to any type of IR they receive.

    So, your jammer detects the emission, but wont emit as there is no pulse to produce.

    That's my thinking on this, but you never know!
    This isn't correct. Radar detectors also alert to pulses the same way laser jammer detection recognizes IR. For example, an escort 8500 X50 will NOT alert to a Laser Atlanta when operated in stealth mode(not enough pulses in the pulse train), but when operated in normal mode the escort will detect. If detectors didn't rely on a pulse rate they would constantly be going off in sunlight.

    That’s not correct either

    The laser Atlanta has a dim laser shoot the windshield.
    I have 2 friends with cobras mounted in the center of the windshield. At 550 feet no detect on the Ultralyte. It too has a dim laser. The easiest to detect is the Stalker PL3 and UL LR.. .
    the UL non LR the PL2 and LA have dim lasers and hard to detect.

 

 

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