New AL G8 with Quad box

**Mthman30** · 01-04-2008, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by thestaton

a quick trip to home depot and you can get some clear silicone to seal up the head when you get it back. My LPP lens fell off so I sealed it up and it's been great ever since.

Thanks for the suggestion. I guess I'll try regluar clear silicone and see how that goes. It couldn't work any worse

I'll just make sure that it is dry and clean inside

**corkguykev** · 01-05-2008, 10:30 AM

i will also be putting some roof sealant on my lens when i get the replacement head as LPP lenses are not very well sealed IMO. the other one has failed me now. coming home from work yesterday it started giving all the same symptoms as the other one did a week ago :x .

would weather proof evo-stick roof sealant be better than silicone for sealing the heads? i got some last week and it comes with a 10 year guarantee.

**Mthman30** · 01-05-2008, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by corkguykev

i will also be putting some roof sealant on my lens when i get the replacement head as LPP lenses are not very well sealed IMO. the other one has failed me now. coming home from work yesterday it started giving all the same symptoms as the other one did a week ago :x .

would weather proof evo-stick roof sealant be better than silicone for sealing the heads? i got some last week and it comes with a 10 year guarantee.

You actually do want to be able to get the lens off at some point, so I think glue is out of the question. Silicone is different. It can be removed. I do think it can work though when applied properly..

P.S. doesn't it suck when your jammer all of sudden becomes an expensive piece of junk :!:

**corkguykev** · 01-05-2008, 08:13 PM

absolutley. might as well not have one at all because it cannot be trusted.

however i have been contacted by KMPH and they are going to send me a replacement dual head system next Tuesday so I am in good hands

. i never doubted otherwise though. great crew.

thanks Kris 8) .

its a balls when crap like that happens all right. i never had so much confidence "parking" and it was cruelly taken from me by this malfunction. thankfully it will be sorted out so my thanks to the KMPH UK crew and I would do business with them any time after this. class customer service by any standards.

P.S. why would i need to take my lens off at any stage? i would rather not interfere with these things but i am curious all the same.

**Mthman30** · 01-05-2008, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by corkguykev

P.S. why would i need to take my lens off at any stage? i would rather not interfere with these things but i am curious all the same.

Lenses wear and will need to be replaced eventually. You will (or a tech) will need to be able to remove the lens, or the sensor, or the sensor will be shot due to cracks scratches etc. and the lens will be unable to be removed if you use epoxy :wink: .

**charles charlie charles** · 01-06-2008, 03:47 AM

IMHO I think there is a mix up here.

The lens is actually the clear round glass device seen inside the LPP head which lies directly over the receiver.

The plastic cover which falls off (inc my one of my own heads) is just that, a cover to protect the internals.

I certainly would expect it may become necessary to change these covers eventually especially if you regularly use automated carwashes.

**Mthman30** · 01-06-2008, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by charles charlie charles

IMHO I think there is a mix up here.

The lens is actually the clear round glass device seen inside the LPP head which lies directly over the receiver.

The plastic cover which falls off (inc my one of my own heads) is just that, a cover to protect the internals.

I certainly would expect it may become necessary to change these covers eventually especially if you regularly use automated carwashes.

There is no mix up. We ARE talking about the cheap plastic "cover", that covers the "internals" and nothing more. Forget the word "lens". Fine it's not a lens it's a cover. Let's split hairs. No one else was confused as far as I know.

**corkguykev** · 01-06-2008, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Mthman30

Originally Posted by charles charlie charles

IMHO I think there is a mix up here.

The lens is actually the clear round glass device seen inside the LPP head which lies directly over the receiver.

The plastic cover which falls off (inc my one of my own heads) is just that, a cover to protect the internals.

I certainly would expect it may become necessary to change these covers eventually especially if you regularly use automated carwashes.

There is no mix up. We ARE talking about the cheap plastic "cover", that covers the "internals" and nothing more. Forget the word "lens". Fine it's not a lens it's a cover. Let's split hairs. No one else was confused as far as I know.

yeah i did mean the plastic cover on the front of the head but i do not use car washes any more. i bought a powerwasher because after i wash the car ten times it will have paid for itself and i will avoid hitting the heads when using it. i would expect an automated washer would rip the plastic covers off easily enough.

where do you get these replacement covers? I suppose KMPH would sort that out for me if i ever need some.

**charles charlie charles** · 01-06-2008, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Mthman30

Originally Posted by charles charlie charles

IMHO I think there is a mix up here.

The lens is actually the clear round glass device seen inside the LPP head which lies directly over the receiver.

The plastic cover which falls off (inc my one of my own heads) is just that, a cover to protect the internals.

I certainly would expect it may become necessary to change these covers eventually especially if you regularly use automated carwashes.

There is no mix up. We ARE talking about the cheap plastic "cover", that covers the "internals" and nothing more. Forget the word "lens". Fine it's not a lens it's a cover. Let's split hairs. No one else was confused as far as I know.

Apologies as I seem to have upset you, and that was not my intention.

The "whatever" is intended to be able to be replaced as it is easily damaged. There were some issues over several different batches of LPP heads related to the sealant used to secure the "whatever" in place.

LPPKMPH always intended for the "whatever" to be easily replaceable as the receiver and diode both need a clear view of the road and it was obvious that the "whatever" would be very vunerable during normal use.

As for replacements, I always assumed that LPP/KMPH would be able to provide them if necessary but I've never asked them.

**TSi+WRX** · 01-06-2008, 12:23 PM

^ charles charlie charles and Mthman30 -

Don't worry about it brother, I think that the two of you - much like my first true interaction with Mthman30 - had the Errornet and its rather digital ways come between me and my fellow enthusiast/hobbyist, too.

I'm *positive* that neither of you meant no insult to the other. Since you both kinda "know" me, in the "e-way,"

, rest assured that I know that you both mean well, and that this little mix-up is all a fault of the Errornet that we all both love and hate.

---

corkguykev - It's good to know that your issues are being taken care of! Although I've never had any interaction with the KMPH-UK/LPP-UK crew ( my only experience have been with LPP-CAN/KMPH-CAN, of whom I have nothing but the highest respect for and can recommend, enthusiastically, and without reservation, to anyone

), I've heard much good things about them through other EU hobbyists/enthusiasts such as yourself. I'm glad they were able to once again come through for the end-customer.

Hope this will be the end of your woes!