man, with all this hating going on, maybe we should just keep our results to ourselves.............................
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man, with all this hating going on, maybe we should just keep our results to ourselves.............................
Thats fine with me!!! I'm in it for the fun..If everyone is just going to dispute the results..We can just keep them to ourselves.
I have just been scanning this thread for info, but did I miss something?
Cliff isn't going to participate?
WTF?
Please explain.
Originally Posted by Rottman
Read above please!
Cliff - C55
Last edited by Laser-InterceptorUSA; 06-24-2008 at 06:18 PM.
CFL Meet
If Cliff's not coming, then I'm out. I've never met Cliff, been to a CFL meet, nor do I own an LI. But here, you've got a guy that by all accounts is honest, helpful, is turning around customer service with a previously poor servicing company, and is willing to come and help out other people test their jammers on a weekend day with his son because he clearly enjoys this hobby of ours, and we've got people suggesting that he shouldn't be there.
I would suggest that you not paint all "reps" with the same brush. Some might invalidate results with their bias, but I've read nothing that suggests that's a realistic possibility with Cliff. I would be frustrated if my integrity were judged by my job/position rather than my actions.
Last edited by hippocrates; 06-24-2008 at 07:02 PM.
I am coming, will meet and greet everyone especially those whom I have never met previously, however, I will not be participating in the actual testing and in fact, will return, upon completion of the session, to bring you all back to my house for the BBQ and pool party. Please come! I do so wish to meet you!
Thank you for your understanding and participation!
Cliff - C55
Oh great.
I don't know about the rest of the guys, but here's where I'm at on this;
Unless you start hanging out around other people's cars with wire cutters, I don't see how our testing "format" would allow any one person to skew the results. (although people on the internet might not know that)
I won't complain if you participate, and I don't care if other's talk trash about it. I consider you a fellow enthusiast and hate to see you shut out of this.
You know the LI will most likely kick @$$. If you want to sit this out so potential customers won't question the LI's performance, fine.
Last edited by Z1NONLY; 06-24-2008 at 07:11 PM.
what a shame......... I dont understand why people feel the need to hate on a bunch of hobbiests just tryin to share their data
CFL Test
What difference does it make if Cliff participates or not. You are bringing your cars with a Laser jammer to test it out with a Laser Gun. The rest will speak for itself how good of a Laser Jammer you have. Cliff as nothing to do with the result of the Laser Jammer test. I would meet Cliff anytime to do a Laser jammer Test.
Cliff
For the record, I don't have anything against Cliff. From what Pmoth told me he sounds like a cool guy.
Who's hating? I sure hope you don't think it's me. I'm just reporting our test results, that's all. Personally I could care less if he came to your next test not. I don't have any problem with it. RacerX should be afforded the same opportunity.
I'd invite either one of them to one of our testing events without any problem
Who's doing the hating? Is this a PM deal? I guess I don't get that one. There are other alleged "enthusiasts" who I don't personally care for, but Cliff isn't one of them, and it has nothing to do with the jammers, but more about their lack of character.
There are a few liars out there spreading malicious gossip. Those are the guys I don't like, not Cliff. Cliff has no reason to lie about anything. I've never spoken to him, but he is very professional on this forum, and if Pmoth respects him, that's good enough for me
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