QUESTION FOR VEIL GUY

**Veil Guy** · 12-08-2004, 09:09 PM

happya$$,

May I suggest you try this?

At night shine a flash light at the front of your vehicle at a distance that illuminates the entire front. Areas that reflect back the light should also be the ones that are treated with Veil.

If you see other areas reflecting back a lot of light that which are not treated and/or can't be treated then a Blinder may be a safe bet for your particular vehicle given its size. Remember the areas reflecting back that are of concern are the areas that a perpendicular to the light source (ie; windshields are not an issue; hoods that angle downward (upward) are not much of a factor either).

If you're interested in jamming laser guns reliably down to basically zero feet, then the Blinder M20 for the front or M40 for the front and rear are a safe bet.

It really comes down to what level of [dis]comfort your willing to live with. I have seen Blinder, two years running in testing, be a stellar performer.

VEIL works as a stealth product but does not, nor claim to, blank readings down to point blank range. If that's what you seek, a Blinder and/or Blinder/VEIL pairing is the best bet. I believe this will become even more important in the future as the laser gun manufacturers are busy revising their products to try and overcome laser jammers through filtering and/or software programming. Of course, laser jammer technology won't stand still either.

There is not much a laser gun can do, if it can't "see" its own light. This is the real strength of VEIL.

Since VEIL allows you to treat five or more cars, the treatment of each car drops to less than $20 - a small price, indeed, for what is really does for you.

Overall, I recommend that drivers in heavy laser usage areas consider having the trifecta - A great detector, VEIL, and a M20/M40.

We'll be testing this combination at next year's SML field test. At that time we'll have some hard data to share with y'all.

Hope this helps you. 8)

The Veil Guy

**happya$$** · 12-09-2004, 07:08 AM

Thanks for the info that is what I have done is the trifecta. Thus far I have been lasered 3 times in one week on my way to work. Here is the pic that you requested:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...509680168&rd=1

**Veil Guy** · 12-09-2004, 07:42 AM

happya$$,

Those pics are good. Especially the fifth one down.

After looking at your vehicle carefully, I think you're in pretty good shape.

Based upon my review, it appears that you've got some things going for you even though is light in colour:

1) Your hood & windshield won't play a role in your detectability
2) The fact that your grill is black is great
3) Your bumper fascia is "broken" up with complexity and its not all perpendicular.

Veil should do quite well on this vehicle.

One thing I should add is the possibility of a using superfecta.

For those who find Veil's colour a bit too dark on the plate cover (we are working on this) and if, a plate cover like a Laser Shield actually cuts down on plate reflection as roy states and its lighter, one may want to consider using that as well.

If plate covers work in their own right, then VEIL, can only serve to improve their performance as well. My own experience with a "laser plate" was that it was bogus. I know because I measured its effectiveness [lack there of] in the lab. And it was available through a major automotive retail chain. This was NOT the Laser Shield, however.

I have not personally seen Laser Shield in use, but if it works well at cutting down plate reflectivity, as Roy has indicated, its use can only be well complimented with VEIL applied to every other reflective object.

I am curious. Where are you driving that you're getting lasered so frequently? I trust your trifecta is paying off.

May I invite you to post in the new forum that Roy and I are moderating?

Your experiences, locations, etc. would be welcomed there. 8)

The Veil Guy

**Veil Guy** · 12-09-2004, 07:53 AM

happya$$,

Looking at your equipment list:

It sounds like you've got more than a superfecta working for you.

You are working towards a five-fecta or six-fecta!

In fact, looking at your vehicle, I couldn't even see it at first!

But, judging by how frequently you are getting zapped by laser, I am sure your efforts are paying off!

The Veil Guy

**happya$$** · 12-09-2004, 10:24 AM

Ha I am still laughing. That is why I am "happya$$". My friends always called me that because i tend to go overboard with things. Once I get into something I get into it! I am getting lasered in Ohio on I480 (going East from North Ridgeville) and on the Ohio Turnpike (not too much here but happend about twice a week)