Yet another bill in PA senate ref lidar and radar for locals

[mikered30]

Bill wants to let locals use radar and lidar along with the staties using lidar too. There was a similar bill last year, I dont know the difference between this new one and the old one. The radar or lidar guns only have to be calibrated every year, according to the new bill.

new bill: Regular Session 2009-2010 Senate Bill 819 P.N. 903

old bill: SENATE BILL 1179 P.N. 1594

[Maestro]

They never made it to the floor for a vote, the law has not changed much year to year. Too many representatives are against it.

All you need to do is write your local rep and tell them why it is a bad idea. Simply say that PA does not want or need to be like all those others states that have local police running around writing tickets so they can spend more money. All those state have bad reputations and you can read about all the abuse that has occurred. PA has a good balance of enforcement and safety and PA accident rate is not any higher than those who have locals running radar all the time.

[mikered30]

Two more bills are up, with quite a few sponsors for letting locals use radar:
Regular Session 2009-2010 House Bill 1501 P.N. 1863

Regular Session 2009-2010 House Bill 1499 P.N. 1862

[Maestro]

Oh that is a new approach, they limited the scope of the law to school zones.

They are using the kids safety to get radar units in the local hands.

I am betting those will pass, since no legislators wants to be seen as someone against kids safety.

[Motor On]

Tell your legislators that AccuTrack works in school zones too

[Maestro]

Tell your legislators that AccuTrack works in school zones too

I think that is the point about allowing locals use Radar in school zones

[Motor On]

Tell your legislators that AccuTrack works in school zones too

I think that is the point about allowing locals use Radar in school zones

Right but I think the previous logic applied across the state, also applies in school zones, and its not anti kid to be against this.

All you need to do is write your local rep and tell them why it is a bad idea. Simply say that PA does not want or need to be like all those others states that have local police running around writing tickets so they can spend more money. All those state have bad reputations and you can read about all the abuse that has occurred. PA has a good balance of enforcement and safety and PA accident rate is not any higher than those who have locals running radar all the time.

It's got cash cow written all over it, I refer you to the Anchorage speed camera incidents story.....
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...ed-public.html

Ticketing began on March 12, 1996, and by the end of the year the company had issued 22,000 tickets worth no less than $50 each. Motorists were frequently hit for driving 25 MPH in 20 MPH school zones long after children had left for the day. It did not take long for a backlash to develop.

"We've been threatened, not like 'I'm going to sic my lawyer on you,' but 'I'm going to shoot you guys,'" John Warner, the ATS program manager, told the Anchorage Daily News at the time.

[mikered30]

Another one letting locals use radar, with A LOT of sponsors.

Regular Session 2009-2010 House Bill 1539 P.N. 1905

[Myriad]

Another one letting locals use radar, with A LOT of sponsors.

Regular Session 2009-2010 House Bill 1539 P.N. 1905

That one does have a lot of sponsors - do you all think it's going to pass?

[Maestro]

This one is different that the one from the past. First they spend lots of text on the subject of where the money's go. It sounds like the local department only gets 1/2 the money the other half will go to some state fund. The of the big issues keeping these law change form happening is the big areas with more reps worried about small communities ticking everyone to raise funds.

Also, this one does not talk about LIDAR being allowed to be used. They also add in that the road must have engineering survey in order for the ticket to be valid, which is good for us.