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    Default Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and apprecia

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    Well, if you put a frog in cold water and raise the temperature slowly enough he'll never jump out and will boil to death. Doesn't mean the frog isn't being cooked just because he's used to it!

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    People squawked during prohibition too... bad article.

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    Lemmon sounds more like a Lemming.

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    Quote Originally Posted by The Chariot View Post
    Well, if you put a frog in cold water and raise the temperature slowly enough he'll never jump out and will boil to death. Doesn't mean the frog isn't being cooked just because he's used to it!
    Great analogy.

    Russ Lemmon: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appreciate them
    All I know is, I’m a better driver when red-light cameras are around. I’m more alert, more aware of my surroundings. Driving in Indian River County doesn’t require nearly as much concentration.
    WTF? it takes a camera for this guy to be a safe driver? WOW

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    I always wear my seat belt, but I don't think it should be a law ... the caveat being "as long as the taxpayers don't have to foot some idiot's medical bill in the aftermath" (same for helmet laws).

    Smoking bans I'm 100% in favor of... it's a public health issue and fcuk smokers anyway.

    Red light cameras are money motivated and have nothing to do with safety, so I'll never think they are a good thing.

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    I always wear my seat belt, but I don't think it should be a law ... the caveat being "as long as the taxpayers don't have to foot some idiot's medical bill in the aftermath" (same for helmet laws).

    Smoking bans I'm 100% in favor of... it's a public health issue and fcuk smokers anyway.

    Red light cameras are money motivated and have nothing to do with safety, so I'll never think they are a good thing.
    I'm not /100%/ in favor of the bans. I think private businesses should have the power to decide if smoking will be allowed in their establishment. If you're worried about your health, and the business does not have a NO SMOKING policy, don't patronize said business. Public bans in the streets that a locality has jurisdiction over however, I would not be necessarily opposed to. I am a smoker, but at the same time I understand how smoking effects those around me, and being in PUBLIC is different then a PRIVATE venue. Plus I carry an e-cig now, just don't have any new filters or e-liquid for it at the moment, and as long as those remain legal, which they should as there is no SMOKE emitted, just an odorless vapor that is not harmful to the health of others around you, I'm given a choice on how to get my fix

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    Somehow, I don't think I could appreciate something that would force me and my hard earned money to part ways.

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    In Florida, the state will receive $70 to $100 of each $158 fine.
    Hmm, I see signs all the time here that say the fine is $212.50. These signs are at non-camera intersections. The camera ones just have a huge "Orlando Stops" sign. At those intersections, the fine is:
    Since the City of Orlando adopted a civil enforcement process for red light signal violations, no points will be assessed against the vehicle owner. A civil fine in the amount of $125.00 will be assessed for the first two violations and a civil fine in the amount of $250.00 will be assessed for the third and any subsequent violation by the owner in any three year period

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    Default Re: Red-light cameras like smoking bans, seat belts: You'll get used to them and appr

    I could not believe the guy admitted that having cameras around made him a better drive and I was just about to say we need this guy off the roads and first response to his article was someone saying the exact same thing.

    Putting Seat and traffic light camera together with smoking bans was stupid too, I agree with no smoking in public place since I do not want your smoke killing me, but if you want to kill yourself for not wearing a seat belt go ahead, it may help the rest of us. Also as we said red light camera will not stop the idiot form running the light, how many videos we saw of someone running the light caught on the red light camera and the person slams into traffic, why didn't the camera stop them.
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