PA - Police cracking down on Route 15 speeding

[StlouisX50]

http://www.abc27.com/Global/story.asp?S=13163686

[supercowpowers]

Lovely. Thanks for the heads up.

[KaPro]

Lovely. Thanks for the heads up.

Yea, I second that. I run 15 all too frequently. Oh well, catch me if you can.

[mikered30]

Heard on the radio to watch your speed on 15 near the MD border yesterday.

[supercowpowers]

Heard on the radio to watch your speed on 15 near the MD border yesterday.

:Rolleyes: There are no at-grade intersections the entire way from the Maryland border to just before York Springs, about 20 miles. That's the absolute last part of the road on which speed enforcement would make any sort of sense.

[rocky2]

Heard on the radio to watch your speed on 15 near the MD border yesterday.

:Rolleyes: There are no at-grade intersections the entire way from the Maryland border to just before York Springs, about 20 miles. That's the absolute last part of the road on which speed enforcement would make any sort of sense.

"The traffic's literally traveling 60 to 80 miles an hour and trying to come out from side roads when those gaps aren't present presents a hazard to everyone,"

What they are saying is when you are not paying attention and you pull out in front of people chances are good you will get hit. But it's those da*m speeders that are the real problem. Weither traffic is moving at 10 mph or 100mph I usally wait for gaps, LOL.

[Solidjake]

Make some vids since there will be a lot of action.

[scottp999]

I'm on the MD side of the border. They got special funding to run daily enforcement near the Frederick City limit. They are going to put up a highway speed camera between Willow Rd and Hayward road and reduce the limit to 50 (45 during construction). These big government types just don't realize that you can not legislate away stupid people. Pulling out across a highway at an at grade intersection, and getting hit, is not speed releated, it is a failure to yield problem. It is a stupidity problem. The State/County/Local police are being turned into revenue machines. http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sec...StoryID=115198

[supercowpowers]

Heard on the radio to watch your speed on 15 near the MD border yesterday.

:Rolleyes: There are no at-grade intersections the entire way from the Maryland border to just before York Springs, about 20 miles. That's the absolute last part of the road on which speed enforcement would make any sort of sense.

"The traffic's literally traveling 60 to 80 miles an hour and trying to come out from side roads when those gaps aren't present presents a hazard to everyone,"

What they are saying is when you are not paying attention and you pull out in front of people chances are good you will get hit. But it's those da*m speeders that are the real problem. Weither traffic is moving at 10 mph or 100mph I usally wait for gaps, LOL.

It's a legitimate issue in certain spots, but it probably has more to do with following distances than speed.

Few people in the through lanes will leave themselves more than 2 seconds of time behind the car in front. To clarify, that means when the car in front of them passes a stationary point, it only takes two seconds for them to reach the same point. Now say the stationary point is a road a car is trying to pull out of. You know any cars that can accelerate to 70 MPH in 2 seconds? After a few minutes people get frustrated. A good driver keeps control of himself and doesn't get desperate but a lot of people aren't good drivers.

70 MPH is about 103 ft/s, so a 2 second gap is 206 feet. If someone comes strolling down the road with a 5 second gap, that's a whole 515 feet. To someone that's been waiting 4 minutes to make a right turn, that can look like a significantly greater distance than the ones they haven't been able to use, but they'll still create a conflict when they try to force themselves in there.

The only times I can think of speed alone being a factor is if the side road has poor visibility of the highway so entering traffic would have less time to see approaching traffic, or if someone is going much faster than most people would expect them to.

What that road really needs is to have a lot of the local access cut off and consolidated into proper interchanges, but that would cost too much so I can't see it happening soon; they'd probably just put up red lights instead.