Photo Radar Protection?

**DIBO** · 03-19-2005, 05:15 AM

Hi to everybody!
My name is Dimitris an I live in Athens, Greece. I bought recently the super protector cover plates from a store here in Athens. I thought that by attaching them to my rear plates I would be safe from the photo cameras which are spreadly used by the Greek highway police. Unfortunately I got caught because the super protector it's ideal only for the steady "GATSO" cameras which operate in a bigger angle. But super protector it's useless for the new "MINI-GATSO" mobile photo radar cameras which are used by Greek police. They are placed in a tripod at the right side of the road and the pick a picture of the rear of your car in a distance of 20 to 45 meters and in an angle less than 20 degrees. So the super protector doesn't operate in such a smal angle and the letters in the rear plate are viewable from any camera even with naked eye.
I wonder if someone has tesetd the VF2? The so called "backflash" and if it's really working!

**happya$$** · 03-19-2005, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by DIBO

Hi to everybody!
My name is Dimitris an I live in Athens, Greece. I bought recently the super protector cover plates from a store here in Athens. I thought that by attaching them to my rear plates I would be safe from the photo cameras which are spreadly used by the Greek highway police. Unfortunately I got caught because the super protector it's ideal only for the steady "GATSO" cameras which operate in a bigger angle. But super protector it's useless for the new "MINI-GATSO" mobile photo radar cameras which are used by Greek police. They are placed in a tripod at the right side of the road and the pick a picture of the rear of your car in a distance of 20 to 45 meters and in an angle less than 20 degrees. So the super protector doesn't operate in such a smal angle and the letters in the rear plate are viewable from any camera even with naked eye.
I wonder if someone has tesetd the VF2? The so called "backflash" and if it's really working!

Ti poustithes einai e eliniki astinomia. Malakes

**DIBO** · 03-19-2005, 04:44 PM

Auto xana pes to file! ola ginontai gia to money!

**SmaartAasSaabr** · 03-19-2005, 04:46 PM

Caulisse parle l'anglais osti t'caves!

**BiGeAsYgUy** · 03-19-2005, 06:58 PM

Que?

**rcantu** · 03-25-2005, 12:41 PM

I'm in Orange County CA where there are several of these photo radars. Anyone know if the super protector is effective down here?

**nvr2fast** · 05-03-2005, 06:28 PM

Has anyone actually tested the VF2 photo jammer? It isn't the old Backflash unit, it is supposedly a new unit. I haven't tested it myself, so for all I know it could be an ineffective copy of the old Backflash, but does anyone know for sure?

**carlito** · 05-04-2005, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by nvr2fast

Has anyone actually tested the VF2 photo jammer? It isn't the old Backflash unit, it is supposedly a new unit. I haven't tested it myself, so for all I know it could be an ineffective copy of the old Backflash, but does anyone know for sure?

i hear from the folks that sell the VF2 photo jammer is the best. SML is
going to test this unit soon!hope it works good cause if it does i am on the list for sure :wink: .

**Radar Roy** · 05-04-2005, 01:27 PM

Well unless things changed with Carl at SML from we last spoke he is not going to test it.

He does not have the equipment to test it number 1, and he is against any type of contraption that foils photo radar

**N3T_K1LLA** · 05-17-2005, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by stealthJamal

The sprays do work, but only on traffic cameras that have a flash. The spray makes the license plate over-expose in the picture from the flash. The superprotector works by blocking the view of the plate from a side or top angle so it works with flash or no flash. I think Roy has a demo of it on radarbusters.com I'm guessing that since the superprotector works by blocking the plate from an angle, it should still work if you placed the laser shield over it. So your plate would still be visable if a cop was riding behind you, but not to the money making cameras.

From what I've heard, even that doesn't work all the time. If the cops reverse the image to NEGATIVE, they can get a clear view of the plate, and depending on what state you are in, some may be willing to take it to court. California is one of them.

Here is proof.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jul20.html

"There's a lot of good people in the industry who are honest and a lot of charlatans. But it doesn't work, that's the bottom line," says Carl Fors, owner of the Fort Worth company.

The bounce-back-the-flash concept does work sometimes, he says, but only on positive images traffic cameras produce. "If we reverse the image, go to a negative image, we can read every letter on a license plate," he says.

Fors says the firms that make and operate radar camera systems for municipalities routinely check negatives of photos where license plates look unreadable. "Going to the negative image is no big deal," he says.

PhotoBlocker's Scott concedes that adjusting the images can "sometimes" reveal the tag numbers, but "these companies will just throw out anything that's questionable.

They don't want to have to dispute it in court and it's not cost-effective for them."

Richard Kosina, director of engineering at Affiliated Computer Services, maker of most of the photo-radar cameras active in the District, Maryland and Virginia, says magnifying the image or adjusting brightness and contrast to make glared or blurred plate numbers legible is easy.

But, he adds, those adjustments aren't usually necessary. "In the case of sprays, we know they don't work . . . and we've tested every spray that's there," he says.

Says Ray Reyer: "That's his perspective. There have been cities and towns that have banned the spray. Illinois just did. The reason they're doing this is because they're losing revenue. Why else would they?"