Got a Speed Cam Ticket, Need Advice. Photo's Attached.

[brettzo]

A few weeks ago I got dinged with a speed camera ticket (92km/h in a 70km/h zone, a cool $130.00). Good thing I slowed down a little bit prior to the intersection out of pure luck.

My questions is, what technology do these damn things use? I've done some research, including visiting the town's website to see if they disclose this kind of information, calling their town hall and no one is able to tell me how these things operate. This may be redundant to several of you on here, so my apologies in advance, but I'd like to know what technology these are using for future. I'm now running V1 in conjunction with LI and stuff like this really irritates me. The photo enforcement cash cow is ever evolving and corrupt IMO.

V1 did not alert to to any radar signal when passing through the intersection. To confirm this, I visited the same intersection a week or so later and did several pass through's to see if V1 would sniff anything out, negative. I was then passing through a few days later again for work and to double confirm that the speed cam wasn't just turned off on my last pass through, I tested again with 2-3 drive by's and nothing on the V1.

What are these things operating on? Alternate radar bands that V1 is not equipped with? Metal plates in the ground? Infrared? I've searched numerous times with no definitive answer. The photo that I received in the mail also shows "Gatso" (just noticed this today) in the bottom right corner. To my knowledge, Gatso is predominantly a European system and has been newly introduced to Canada.







The speed cam in the third photo is very close to the intersection, almost right on it for that matter.

License plate covers aren't a major offense here, I'm seriously contemplating adding one to my arsenal, as these damn things are everywhere now.

[Eloi]

Very interesting and well put topic.

We have for 18 months those demoniac boxes in Q ue bec .
As far as i learned from my sti they operate on X band ...strange
but true. The boxes are from Germany and supposed to be
the latest technology ....so why in X band ?

Some people are trying different schema to thwart those machine ...
they use very low powered radar

On a philosophical note : the autoritites sold their souls to these
mafia company pretending saving lives when they only save
their own XXX ....one day someone will have to clean this mess

All the technical infos are hidden ...nobody at the city hall knows a damn...
but they collect trucks of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

People in general applaudoses those machines then
they wakeup in a nightmare...< for your own good >
we will ^&#37;$@* you....shame on you sleeping citizens

[DrCoke]

The 2nd image looks like a flash. A town 4 hours away from me uses flash to take pic of the tag and a PL3 to catch you speed. A town 15 minutes from me uses PL3 to catch your speed but has no flash. My guess is it's IR video. My LI can pick up the lidar hit when I pass by these traps but the V1 doesnt always as the lidar hit is from behind at <200ft. Do you have rear jammers?

[brettzo]

The 2nd image looks like a flash. A town 4 hours away from me uses flash to take pic of the tag and a PL3 to catch you speed. A town 15 minutes from me uses PL3 to catch your speed but has no flash. My guess is it's IR video. My LI can pick up the lidar hit when I pass by these traps but the V1 doesnt always as the lidar hit is from behind at <200ft. Do you have rear jammers?

Second pic is definitely flash, as I observed it flash when I was speeding by (was around 9PM and very dark).

Next time I'm near the intersection I'll enable X band on the V1 to see if I can yield a detection. Thought the chance of it operating on X would be slim to none, but I should try.

As far as it running in LIDAR, I'm doubtful but not certain. I don't have rear heads for my LI unfortunately and the box has been sitting in my house for a month now (haven't had time to get it installed). V1 definitely isn't alerting to a laser hit however. Could be lack of sensitivity, but I doubt it, as I've had several rear hits from >800ft with PLIII's, truspeed, etc and it's never failed to alert.

[brettzo]

Very interesting and well put topic.

We have for 18 months those demoniac boxes in Q ue bec .
As far as i learned from my sti they operate on X band ...strange
but true. The boxes are from Germany and supposed to be
the latest technology ....so why in X band ?

Some people are trying different schema to thwart those machine ...
they use very low powered radar

On a philosophical note : the autoritites sold their souls to these
mafia company pretending saving lives when they only save
their own XXX ....one day someone will have to clean this mess

All the technical infos are hidden ...nobody at the city hall knows a damn...
but they collect trucks of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

People in general applaudoses those machines then
they wakeup in a nightmare...< for your own good >
we will ^&#37;$@* you....shame on you sleeping citizens

I agree with you 100%. When third parties are also profiting as the result of my speeding through an intersection and declare it as a "safety measure", it really raises questions and pure anger. When I call in to town hall and no one can tell me anything regarding the systems they've invested in to raise a TON of capital (more profitable than the drug trade), it also raises questions and anger. I'm very surprised there hasn't been a hell of a lot more outrage towards these things.

Historically it was illegal to actually fine a driver speeding through a speed cam unless the setup was actually witnessed by an operating officer (i.e. parked vehicle, which we still have everywhere as well) to backup in court. Now I guess they've counteracted this with short video clips following to the offense, which could be used in court.

We live in a world where big brother's always watching and it's only going to get worse from here. I can't even step on it a little bit on the HIGHWAY (not a residential area with kids playing) without the speed limit dropping from 100km/h to 70km/h and getting fined. Funny how they place these traps so strategically as well. Must surely promote the safe driving of motorists...

Another funny thing is I had photoblocker spray (NO ONE PURCHASE THIS STUFF BTW) at the time of this photo with a very clean license plate. The photo came in a little blurry, but still easily visible. I had purchased the PB spray a few years back. Shortly after purchasing realized it was pretty much a scam, however still apply to new plates, as it is semi-effective in optimal conditions.

[category4]

I'm betting it's laser!!

[DrCoke]

V1 will NEVER alert to laser <200ft unless the laser beam is pointed directly at the V1. From the rear, even my v1 doesn't alert to laser with my top down at <200ft. Before I got rear jammers, I got owned by laser in rear and my V1 never went off.

[brettzo]

V1 will NEVER alert to laser <200ft unless the laser beam is pointed directly at the V1. From the rear, even my v1 doesn't alert to laser with my top down at <200ft. Before I got rear jammers, I got owned by laser in rear and my V1 never went off.

You're saying that if within <200ft of a LEO running LIDAR V1 will not typically alert?

I've been hit from 100-800+ft from the rear and V1 has always alerted. About three weeks ago I had a perfect example being hit 3-4 times front and 4-5 times rear while passing with a PLIII late at night by LEO's sitting on the side of the road. Each hit alerted V1.

[DrCoke]

V1 will NEVER alert to laser <200ft unless the laser beam is pointed directly at the V1. From the rear, even my v1 doesn't alert to laser with my top down at <200ft. Before I got rear jammers, I got owned by laser in rear and my V1 never went off.

You're saying that if within <200ft of a LEO running LIDAR V1 will not typically alert?

I've been hit from 100-800+ft from the rear and V1 has always alerted. About three weeks ago I had a perfect example being hit 3-4 times front and 4-5 times rear while passing with a PLIII late at night by LEO's sitting on the side of the road. Each hit alerted V1.

Yes i'm saying at <200ft the V1 will not alert to laser unless the laser beam is aim directly at the V1. This is not a theory, its a fact that I can prove time and time again. If I aimed directly at the headlight, at 200ft the V1 if mounted at the rear view mirror will not alert as the laser beam is not wide enough to trigger the V1. If I aim even lower like the foglights, I can get a reading off your car +500ft without triggering your V1. For testing purpose, I aim at a single location per run to confirm no PT occur at that location. Cops just dont aim at your headlights, they paint your entire front car (headlight, center mass, foglights, roofline, tire, antenna, ect) so they are more likely to trigger the V1. Its not easy to free hand a laser gun to a single location and d@m hard to do it on a windy day.

I have used the following guns to test my setup and other members: TruSpeed, Ultralyte, PL3, Marksman, and Stalker.

[DrCoke]

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I'm gonna guess the 2nd pic is the camera and flash and the 3rd pic is the PL3.