Moving radar in PA?

I'm not trying to sound like an alarmist here but, twice this week I've encountered what appears to be moving radar in PA. The first encounter was on Rte. 80 between the two Bloomsburg exits. (Rte.42 and Lightstreet) My X50 sounded an IO type alert and displayed 24.158. I did not think to much of it until the signal went rapidly to full alert again. I decided to slow down at this point as I was going 80. I then spotted an unmarked blue CVP with tinted windows.(He was going westbound, I was EB) Could not see the antenna inside the car and I did not see the barrel type unit on the side window.
Today's run in was on I81 NB between Harford and Gibson. Again I was motoring briskly alon when suddenly Val goes full alert on KA. This time I really slowed down to the psl. The signal faded then suddenly went full alert again. I spotted an unmarked white CVP (SB) and this time I saw an antenna mounted center of the dash. The strange thing is that the face of the antenna was black instead of the usual (for my area anyway) white face. Incidentally, Val correctly tracked the cruiser as it passed by. Any of you PA guys come across any of this? Sorry to be so long winded, but this could become an "inconvience". Scott

PA Law states that it has to be stationary run K-band radar. It can be run instant-on or Constant-on by State police

Last real experience i have seen in PA was a trooper hiding behind a bridge wall shooting the back of cars going away from him instant-on K-band

People say they have run into Ka in PA but i haven't yet on 380, 80 or 81

On the west side of the state and central I have been hit by K-band as far as I can recall since I got here 5 years ago. X-band for speed signs. They like instant on around my main travel to work (rt422) around the Butler to Kittanning area.

I have noticed that sometimes troopers leave their radar on while traveling, but this is usually when they are doing 75+. I got my x50 about 2 weeks before xmas and haven't seen many cops shooting recently.

Oh for what its worth they also use vascar here on 422 (watch for those lines!), from the air and from cruiser. Last year a friend got hit from the air!

Isn't PA the king of Vascar state? I thought it was?

Proud,
PA is the king of VASCAR! Nearly every municipality uses it as well as the stateys. I got my only speeding ticket with VASCAR. I was pissed because I didn't see the cop anywhere in sight so I went to court with a lawyer. The cop didn't show and the ticket got dismissed. Still cost me $100.00 though. Keep thy eyes peeled for white stripes, traffic cones in "strange" locations etc.

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Today's run in was on I81 NB between Harford and Gibson. Again I was motoring briskly alon when suddenly Val goes full alert on KA... I spotted an unmarked white CVP (SB) and this time I saw an antenna mounted center of the dash.

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You were within 15 miles of the NY border, did you positively ID the car's tag? It is possible it was a NY LEO traveling in PA for official business, etc.

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Any of you PA guys come across any of this? Sorry to be so long winded, but this could become an "inconvience". Scott

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I regularly scan state legislative websites looking for changes in enforcement policy, haven't seen anything regarding the use of moving RADAR.

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PA is the king of VASCAR! Nearly every municipality uses it as well as the stateys. I got my only speeding ticket with VASCAR.

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I haven't seen a VASCAR unit in a PSP vehicle for over 20 (maybe even 30) years. From whom did you get your VASCAR citation?

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Originally Posted by KaPro

Proud,
PA is the king of VASCAR! Nearly every municipality uses it as well as the stateys. I got my only speeding ticket with VASCAR. I was pissed because I didn't see the cop anywhere in sight so I went to court with a lawyer. The cop didn't show and the ticket got dismissed. Still cost me $100.00 though. Keep thy eyes peeled for white stripes, traffic cones in "strange" locations etc.

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I think FLORIDA is big on vascar i dont know about king though. I got nailed on I75 with Airplane 91 in 70 PSL... that time i wasn't aware of 1/4 lines on the road and "Speed enforced by aircraft" was only a scare tactic for me until i got caught along with who knows how many others. Now everytime i drive pass those lines I always look up and i never go above +10 psl!!! To this day (that was 2 years ago) I have not seen one airplane speed trap yet. Im beginning to think extreme unluckyness took place.

I can confirm that they're using (unmarked cars with) Ka band in PA (especially near the PA/NY border) and as the TS said, they go full alert, drop down and then full alert again.

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I can confirm that they're using (unmarked cars with) Ka band in PA (especially near the PA/NY border) and as the TS said, they go full alert, drop down and then full alert again.

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Do you know what KA frequency/gun they use?

I live in PA. The law says only state cops can issue radar tickets and they must be stationary.

I have seen cops turn their radar on when moving though. One time I was near the cop and I think he saw my radar detector and he was just trying to mess with me, :)

They can turn their radar on while they are moving, the just can't issue any tickets.

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Originally Posted by SpeedingVolvo

I live in PA. The law says only state cops can issue radar tickets and they must be stationary.

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Is this still true?

Yup, no rolling radar in Pa.


Just a million or so drones around every freakin corner.

I think this was posted somewhere else on here but is is worth a quick read about a proposed law about moving radar and lidar: PA Bulletin, Doc. No. 05-2316

Yes the "white" vans are PSP units they are used for speed enforcement and truck enforcement. Moving radar is not allowed by Pa State law. PSP has no vascar in their cars. I know for a fact that they leave there radar units on to "slow down" those how do have radar detectors. This is coming from a friend that is a trooper.

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Originally Posted by beefcake

Yes the "white" vans are PSP units they are used for speed enforcement and truck enforcement. Moving radar is not allowed by Pa State law. PSP has no vascar in their cars. I know for a fact that they leave there radar units on to "slow down" those how do have radar detectors. This is coming from a friend that is a trooper.

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yep, I have seen it myself, it depend on the officer, I've seen them drive around with it on, as well as when they pull someone over. It has it desired affect since PSP know people have and use RD on the highways. It makes me slow down that is for sure.

I never saw a PSP trooper leave their radar on while driving or when they have a customer. However, out of state, almost every cop with a customer leaves their radar on and have seen a few driving around with it on. I guess it is up to the cop.

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Originally Posted by mikered30

I never saw a PSP trooper leave their radar on while driving or when they have a customer.

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X2 or use constant-on. All the radar i run into around NEPA is instant-on.

Lets put it this way, I have driven the length of the PA turnpike more times and I wish to admit and I have seen it all on that road in the last 20 yrs. The PSP have done it all, hid in interesting places and changes their tactics over time. I does not surprise me anymore to see something I have not seen them do in the past.

Remember before anything is approved to use in PA it has to be tested and the PSP do most of that testing and MR is on the books in PA just not approved for use yet.