Got the Wrong Detector!

As much as I love the 9500ix I purchased a few weeks ago (big upgrade from the cheap-o ones I've used in the past) I realized a bit too late that I bought the wrong one. I do a lot of driving on US60/84 between New Mexico and Lubbock, Texas and there aren't many falses, and are no speed cams. The only red light cameras in Albuquerque they are now going to remove. Had I known about the Redline I would have purchased it instead, unfortunately for me I got the top one at Best Buy which happened to be the 9500ix. I guess the best I can do now is wait until I'm stationed somewhere in a bigger city so the 9500ix can shine. I've had a few saves with the 9500ix on 60/84 with Ka band stalker radar, but the range was just enough for me to slow down in time (too close for comfort). The drive is mostly straight but has a few curves and hills here in there, which is where I slow down. The more I read about the Redline the more I realize how much I screwed up! Does anyone know if there has been any scientific testing done with the Redline? I've found test results on GoL and other websites for almost every other detector out there. I guess the Redline is just too new or I'm missing them.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

As much as I love the 9500ix I purchased a few weeks ago (big upgrade from the cheap-o ones I've used in the past) I realized a bit too late that I bought the wrong one. I do a lot of driving on US60/84 between New Mexico and Lubbock, Texas and there aren't many falses, and are no speed cams. The only red light cameras in Albuquerque they are now going to remove. Had I known about the Redline I would have purchased it instead, unfortunately for me I got the top one at Best Buy which happened to be the 9500ix. I guess the best I can do now is wait until I'm stationed somewhere in a bigger city so the 9500ix can shine. I've had a few saves with the 9500ix on 60/84 with Ka band stalker radar, but the range was just enough for me to slow down in time (too close for comfort). The drive is mostly straight but has a few curves and hills here in there, which is where I slow down. The more I read about the Redline the more I realize how much I screwed up! Does anyone know if there has been any scientific testing done with the Redline? I've found test results on GoL and other websites for almost every other detector out there. I guess the Redline is just too new or I'm missing them.

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Plenty of real world testimony's about the RedLine and how great it is, it uses the same antenna as the 9500ci which rocks in its detection ability's.

However the 9500ix is no slouch, and still can produce good saves. Just doesn't give as much of a comfort zone. You can also use the speed trap feature to mark locations.

So is it safe to say the 9500ci test results would be very close to the Redline's, since they use the same antenna? The 9500ix seems to actually alert me to K band (the local cops here) at a lot further range than the Ka band (the state troopers) which is contradictory to what I've read.

Your 9500ix is no match for Tx Dps and there Quick trigger I/O tactics which i'm sure the ix is a poor performer. I live in Lubbock and Dps all around here will snatch you in a flash with 200ms of Instant on 34.7 Ka. Some cruisers are equipped with spectres. Belscorts have a very long response time to filter the radar. Dps can Q/T you with out your detector alerting.

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...-q-t-test.html

With all the close calls I've gotten in the past few weeks I now realize I should have gotten a balls to the walls detector ala Redline or V1. The 9500ix is a great detector just not what I needed. I can only blame myself, though, for doing the research too late. I guess in a few years if I get stationed in a place like San Antonio or any other big city I'll probably be grateful I have it, though by then I'm sure there will probably be detectors that far surpass what I have now. Maybe I can eBay it and get 400 of my 500 back to get a Redline or V1, I mean it's brand new and I even have the receipt with date. Well, I guess at least I taught myself a lesson (a $500 one)!

You stationed in Clovis NM?

How'd you guess, haha. All the driving I do is to Albuquerque and Lubbock to get out of this one horse town.

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Originally Posted by Jag42

Your 9500ix is no match for Tx Dps and there Quick trigger I/O tactics which i'm sure the ix is a poor performer.

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^^ Very true. If you drive mostly highway, I suggest you get the V1.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

How'd you guess, haha. All the driving I do is to Albuquerque and Lubbock to get out of this one horse town.

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New Mexico State Police runs constant on Ka 35.5 and K band. This video from me was made near Roswell NM. My aunt and Uncle live in Clovis behind the headquarters for Allsups. The Dps outside of Muleshoe uses his spectre to nail Rd users and is very selective with his Instant on.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7b3FpWYrZc]YouTube - Whistler SE long distant C/O K band[/ame] Roswell NM

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m4OTQUlTtE]YouTube - Whistler SE 002.AVI[/ame]- Tatum NM

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdcpPv6bZ8E]YouTube - Forward facing Ka 35.5 Pro 78[/ame] Roswell NM

Too late for that now. Doing a quick check on eBay I can probably get 400 for my new ix then buy a V1 for 400 new or throw the extra 100 in for a Redline. Going to be a massive PITA, but it's my fault -_- . Is it safe to assume the GoL test results for the 9500ci are close to what the Redline's would be, seeing as how they use the same antenna?

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Originally Posted by Unkind

Too late for that now. Doing a quick check on eBay I can probably get 400 for my new ix then buy a V1 for 400 new or throw the extra 100 in for a Redline. Going to be a massive PITA, but it's my fault -_- . Is it safe to assume the GoL test results for the 9500ci are close to what the Redline's would be, seeing as how they use the same antenna?

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I would go with the V1 if you want to go Hardcore. I settle for Whistler for a while because they are very well performers for this area and lightning reaction time to Instant on radar or Quick trigger and have used them for years with one Laser ticket in 1999 and average speed is 10-15 over PSL.

The local cops here in Clovis only use K band which I seem to pick up pretty far out. They sit along 60/84 on my route to the base ALL the time and bust military going to/from work, makes me so angry. I had 2 stalker Ka band C/O encounters on my way back from Lubbock last week, but have yet to encounter anything in Muleshoe or any of the towns in between on 60/84. I haven't made a trip to Albuquerque with my 9500ix yet, but I'm sure I-40 will be interesting. Hopefully there's no laser as I have yet to get CMs for that.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

So is it safe to say the 9500ci test results would be very close to the Redline's, since they use the same antenna? The 9500ix seems to actually alert me to K band (the local cops here) at a lot further range than the Ka band (the state troopers) which is contradictory to what I've read.

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Yes ci results are similar to RedLine. Just return it to Best Buy. Did you put it on a CC?

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Originally Posted by Unkind

The local cops here in Clovis only use K band which I seem to pick up pretty far out. They sit along 60/84 on my route to the base ALL the time and bust military going to/from work, makes me so angry. I had 2 stalker Ka band C/O encounters on my way back from Lubbock last week, but have yet to encounter anything in Muleshoe or any of the towns in between on 60/84. I haven't made a trip to Albuquerque with my 9500ix yet, but I'm sure I-40 will be interesting. Hopefully there's no laser as I have yet to get CMs for that.

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I-40 is full of K band and Ka 35.5. Was the C/O stalkers from Tx dps? I have gotten 5 mile alerts on K band on I-40 and 3 mile Ka alerts.

I can't return to best buy. It's been outside of 14 days, plus even if it was within the 14 days they charge a 15% restocking fee or something ridiculous. I basically walked in and bought the most expensive Escort detector, since I knew they were a top brand. Unfortunately for me they didn't have the Redline and I didn't know about it. Yes the C/O stalkers were from Texas DPS, my alerts were about half a mile.

Have you driven through Kerr county on the way from Lubbock to San Antonio? There's a nasty stretch of curves and hills and a LEO that sits at the bottom of a steep grade where the highway is divided by rock. Basically I'm not expecting to get any alert coming up on that guy. My wife got a ticket there going 83 in a 70 riding down the hill.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

I can't return to best buy. It's been outside of 14 days, plus even if it was within the 14 days they charge a 15% restocking fee or something ridiculous. I basically walked in and bought the most expensive Escort detector, since I knew they were a top brand. Unfortunately for me they didn't have the Redline and I didn't know about it. Yes the C/O stalkers were from Texas DPS, my alerts were about half a mile.

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You should get a remote unit like the STI-R or 9500CI. Taking down your RD every time you come through the gate gets old!

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Originally Posted by Unkind

I can't return to best buy. It's been outside of 14 days, plus even if it was within the 14 days they charge a 15% restocking fee or something ridiculous. I basically walked in and bought the most expensive Escort detector, since I knew they were a top brand. Unfortunately for me they didn't have the Redline and I didn't know about it. Yes the C/O stalkers were from Texas DPS, my alerts were about half a mile.

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15% is only $75 and if you used a CC you have a lot more options to return it. Its at least worth a try.

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So is it safe to say the 9500ci test results would be very close to the Redline's, since they use the same antenna? The 9500ix seems to actually alert me to K band (the local cops here) at a lot further range than the Ka band (the state troopers) which is contradictory to what I've read.

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Yes ci results are similar to RedLine. Just return it to Best Buy. Did you put it on a CC?

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Fwiw. Best Buy will charge him a 15% restocking fee. Unless he can somehow get them to waive it.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

So is it safe to say the 9500ci test results would be very close to the Redline's, since they use the same antenna? The 9500ix seems to actually alert me to K band (the local cops here) at a lot further range than the Ka band (the state troopers) which is contradictory to what I've read.

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Yes ci results are similar to RedLine. Just return it to Best Buy. Did you put it on a CC?

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Fwiw. Best Buy will charge him a 15% restocking fee. Unless he can somehow get them to waive it.

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You don't get if you don't ask. ;) :)

Taking down my RD to get through the gate does get old, but it's not that much of a hassle. I just didn't want to get a CI due to the fact that it comes with shifters that I don't plan on using. Also when I do move to an area that uses laser and have to get CMs, I have to decide whether to get dual or quad heads since I drive a truck.

I guess the restocking fee might be worth it over the hassle of doing the ebay thing, but I am outside of the 14 day window. I did buy it with a CC, what would my other options be?

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Have you driven through Kerr county on the way from Lubbock to San Antonio? There's a nasty stretch of curves and hills and a LEO that sits at the bottom of a steep grade where the highway is divided by rock. Basically I'm not expecting to get any alert coming up on that guy. My wife got a ticket there going 83 in a 70 riding down the hill.

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Yes ! Tx Dps loves to wait on the other side of a hill and shoot you forward facing 34.7 in your rear view mirror (suprise) The deadliest trooper i always ecounter is near Snyder,tx and has many hiding spots like coming around a curve and he is shooting his rear Antenna at traffic.

We have family in San Antonio and the 8 hour trip there from Clovis can be so much faster if I go just a bit over PSL. I wonder would my trip be longer from slowing down to all the V1/Redline falses or from slowing down by not having over the hill/curve confidence in my 9500ix? :p

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Originally Posted by Unkind

Taking down my RD to get through the gate does get old, but it's not that much of a hassle. I just didn't want to get a CI due to the fact that it comes with shifters that I don't plan on using. Also when I do move to an area that uses laser and have to get CMs, I have to decide whether to get dual or quad heads since I drive a truck.

I guess the restocking fee might be worth it over the hassle of doing the ebay thing, but I am outside of the 14 day window. I did buy it with a CC, what would my other options be?

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Some CC company's extend warranties and return's ext... You can also dispute the charge if BB doesn't assist you. Don't be afraid to ask for a manager if a sales clerk cant assist you at BB.
But most of all be cool and ask for them to help you out. Be creative if nesisary, My wife flipped her lid, my mom found out and is going to kick my @ss ect... Last resort would be CC company assistance, product didn't work ect...

If BB carry's the 9500ci maybe they will put the whole $$$ amount towards it. The jammers are good laser sensors anyway.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

We have family in San Antonio and the 8 hour trip there from Clovis can be so much faster if I go just a bit over PSL. I wonder would my trip be longer from slowing down to all the V1/Redline falses or from slowing down by not having over the hill/curve confidence in my 9500ix? :p

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Texas and New Mexico have millions of Cobras and Unidens and other leaky Rd's on the roads. Radar detectors can filter most of them out. Whistler has 3 filter modes for this reason. But when there is 6 other radar detectors coming at you then your going to have some falses. All the Interstates in Texas are flooded with Radar detectors. USE A RABBIT !!

If they carried the 9500ci I bet I could probably negotiate them putting the cost towards it even though I'm outside the 14 day window. I don't think they do, however, and I'm worried about the laser shifters. I drive a black 2010 Tundra and was wondering if I would need 4 heads ala M47 to protect me or if 2 would be enough. Also I heard LI is the reigning king of laser protection so I have the conundrum of do I go LI dual or M47 quad, I have no idea which would give me better protection. I read that running two different jammers can cause lots of problems, though, so I don't think I could get the ci.

Just checked BB website, they don't carry the CI. I didn't remember seeing it there either as I essentially went in and bought the most expensive one they had (the 9500ix). Oh well.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

If they carried the 9500ci I bet I could probably negotiate them putting the cost towards it even though I'm outside the 14 day window. I don't think they do, however, and I'm worried about the laser shifters. I drive a black 2010 Tundra and was wondering if I would need 4 heads ala M47 to protect me or if 2 would be enough. Also I heard LI is the reigning king of laser protection so I have the conundrum of do I go LI dual or M47 quad, I have no idea which would give me better protection. I read that running two different jammers can cause lots of problems, though, so I don't think I could get the ci.

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STi-R!

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Originally Posted by Unkind

Just checked BB website, they don't carry the CI. I didn't remember seeing it there either as I essentially went in and bought the most expensive one they had (the 9500ix). Oh well.

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I need a favor ! There is a big tower beside the Allsups HQ that has a bunch of satellite dishes on it. All my Rd's have gone off because of the tower in 33.8 Ka. It is a very strong Ka source and will alert to it from miles away. I'm curious if your detector alerts to it.

Is the HQ the one on Thornton? Let me know where it's at and I'll check on my way to work tomorrow morning.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

Is the HQ the one on Thornton? Let me know where it's at and I'll check on my way to work tomorrow morning.

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Yes thornton i think. Its a very large communication tower with many satellite dishes around out. Tell me if yours alerts.

I'll take the long way to work tomorrow morning and check it out for you. As for my laser jammer question, best to post on the jammer forums I suppose?

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Originally Posted by Unkind

I'll take the long way to work tomorrow morning and check it out for you. As for my laser jammer question, best to post on the jammer forums I suppose?

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The LI should protect you. I know guys with diesels and lots of chrome and they have superb protection. They have HP heads also for a option. P.M about the tower

Also, what is the range of these K and KA band police radars? I see plenty of info on the range of detectors, but what's the range of the radar? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Unkind

Also, what is the range of these K and KA band police radars? I see plenty of info on the range of detectors, but what's the range of the radar? Thanks.

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Most radars if the Leo is stationary is 5,000 ft.

Moving Instant on Ka is limited to less than 2,500 ft i believe.

Stalker radar can nab you 2,000 ft away in milliseconds.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXyvXM9rA9A&feature=related[/ame]

So if these radars are getting people a mile out stationary, or a half mile moving, how can tests like Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - LASER be acceptable? They're talking about .1 - .25 mile detection ranges for every detector, or am I reading the graphs wrong?

Unkind,
I don't think you made a bad choice getting the ix; it's a good RD, but it is definately not the right one for your current location. You need either a Redline or a V1. I've been running an ix for about 9 months, a Redline for 6 months, and a V1 for 3 days.
The Redline will give you way longer detection distances than the ix ever will, and my initial impression is that the Redline beats the V1 for sensitivity. BUT, and I emphasize this, BUT testing is showing that the Redline will not consistently alert to radar bursts that are much under 1 second, whereas the V1 will.
This technique, refered to on the forum as Q/T (Quick Trigger) is often used in Texas. I bought the V1 specifically because of this weakness in the Redline.

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So if these radars are getting people a mile out stationary, or a half mile moving, how can tests like Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - LASER be acceptable? They're talking about .1 - .25 mile detection ranges for every detector, or am I reading the graphs wrong?

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These tests were run around the curve you see in this picture.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/radar-det...real-world.jpg

Here's the test course. The test car was parked on the left at 1:21 of the video.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40P5WMyMX00[/ame]

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Originally Posted by Unkind

Taking down my RD to get through the gate does get old, but it's not that much of a hassle. I just didn't want to get a CI due to the fact that it comes with shifters that I don't plan on using. Also when I do move to an area that uses laser and have to get CMs, I have to decide whether to get dual or quad heads since I drive a truck.

I guess the restocking fee might be worth it over the hassle of doing the ebay thing, but I am outside of the 14 day window. I did buy it with a CC, what would my other options be?

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Some CC company's extend warranties and return's ext... You can also dispute the charge if BB doesn't assist you. Don't be afraid to ask for a manager if a sales clerk cant assist you at BB.
But most of all be cool and ask for them to help you out. Be creative if nesisary, My wife flipped her lid, my mom found out and is going to kick my @ss ect... Last resort would be CC company assistance, product didn't work ect...

If BB carry's the 9500ci maybe they will put the whole $$$ amount towards it. The jammers are good laser sensors anyway.

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Fwiw. BB doesn't carry the 9500ci.. I already ask. They don't carry the Redline either.. I was told by one customer service rep that they could order whatever from Escort. As I got up the ladder of people to talk with ( you know how that goes) :rolleyes: I was told if it wasn't on their site they couldn't, or wouldn't order it.

I might have already bought an 9500ci, if BB had them. I happy with the Redline though.Even though I have to take it down everytime I go into a store. PITA. Plus if I spent $1600.00, my wife would make me pay for it by buying something much more expensive. :eek: LOL

Too bad the STI-R's are gone..

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Have you driven through Kerr county on the way from Lubbock to San Antonio? There's a nasty stretch of curves and hills and a LEO that sits at the bottom of a steep grade where the highway is divided by rock. Basically I'm not expecting to get any alert coming up on that guy. My wife got a ticket there going 83 in a 70 riding down the hill.

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Yes ! Tx Dps loves to wait on the other side of a hill and shoot you forward facing 34.7 in your rear view mirror (suprise) The deadliest trooper i always ecounter is near Snyder,tx and has many hiding spots like coming around a curve and he is shooting his rear Antenna at traffic.

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I drive back and forth from tech to dallas. That cop in snyder is pretty sneaky lol