RD vs AIRCRAFT ENFORCEMENT

[GoHawks63]

I used to play hockey with an Illinois State Trooper who flew regular VASCAR flights. He stated that in those situations they only looked for "major" speeders. He came right out and said that "they have to be doing at least 80 before I'll radio them in".

Keeping in mind that the speed limits in the Chicago metro area are 55mph and it increases to 65 in the rural areas.

There was also an article in Car & Driver within the last year where they flew with an Ohio State Trooper and I think he said the same thing.

[RW'07]

I used to play hockey with an Illinois State Trooper who flew regular VASCAR flights. He stated that in those situations they only looked for "major" speeders. He came right out and said that "they have to be doing at least 80 before I'll radio them in".

Keeping in mind that the speed limits in the Chicago metro area are 55mph and it increases to 65 in the rural areas.

There was also an article in Car & Driver within the last year where they flew with an Ohio State Trooper and I think he said the same thing.

With today's MVs, fast and pretty powerful, ain't too hard to reach pretty high speeds... personally I have no problem reaching 150-160 km/h (that's almost 100 mph) on regular basis (when traffic allows that) and I won't feel anything going wrong with my car like strong vibrations or the feeling that I'm gonna die soon

I guess the advice with a scanner it's a pretty smart choice, I don't think that truckers on ch 19 (CB) are gonna bother to start looking to the open sky for an eventual little object flying above...

[lugnuts]

Someone needs to re-invent Spybuster!

They have...



there is another thread dicussing the same stuff... just a few days ago...

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=33699

:wink:

that is cool wonder how well they work?

[lugnuts]

I guess the advice with a scanner it's a pretty smart choice, I don't think that truckers on ch 19 (CB) are gonna bother to start looking to the open sky for an eventual little object flying above...

maybe not but they would see the chase vehicles and alert to those.

[RW'07]

I guess the advice with a scanner it's a pretty smart choice, I don't think that truckers on ch 19 (CB) are gonna bother to start looking to the open sky for an eventual little object flying above...

maybe not but they would see the chase vehicles and alert to those.

But until you're getting some CB alert you might be one of the chased ones :wink:

[amoney]

I guess the advice with a scanner it's a pretty smart choice, I don't think that truckers on ch 19 (CB) are gonna bother to start looking to the open sky for an eventual little object flying above...

maybe not but they would see the chase vehicles and alert to those.

:wink:

And there are normally lots of chase vehicles.

[TSi+WRX]

I used to play hockey with an Illinois State Trooper who flew regular VASCAR flights. He stated that in those situations they only looked for "major" speeders. He came right out and said that "they have to be doing at least 80 before I'll radio them in".

Keeping in mind that the speed limits in the Chicago metro area are 55mph and it increases to 65 in the rural areas.

There was also an article in Car & Driver within the last year where they flew with an Ohio State Trooper and I think he said the same thing.

Not only that, but I also have it on the word of a local LEO, a fellow automotive enthusiast and active participant/member of our local Scooby enthusiast community (who also routinely performs traffic-enforcement duty for his township) that the practices reported in that Car & Driver article are pretty true-to-life.

When his township participates in such "Targeted Enforcement" efforts with the State Troopers (with or without aerial support), the targets are indeed aggressive drivers and "super-speeders."

If the prevailing pace of traffic happens to be 80 MPH, they won't even bother pulling anyone over - and what's more, if you're speeding along, 5+ relative to prevailing pace, in a relatively smooth and controlled manner (no tail-gating, signaling before lane-changes, etc.), under most situations, they also won't even bother you.

What gets you targeted is speeding excessively (huge differential), and, moreso, obviously aggressive driving maneuvers ("cutting," tailgating, etc.).

Honestly, most such enforcement, at least in Ohio, are well-publicized efforts. You'd have to be oblivious to local news, as well as blind as to the heavy enforcement (and slowed ambient pace), in order to run afoul of this type of "Targeted Enforcement" scenario.

Similarly, to blindly blitz along through strips of roadway where there are such timing-lines clearly marked is, again, to me, simply "speeding stupid." Like the C&D article said, if you can't bother to just slow down for that one mile stretch of roadway, then yes, you're gonna get busted.

[ELVATO]

It helps to travel at night.

But then, that opens you up to other speed enforcement practices. :?

[amoney]

I used to play hockey with an Illinois State Trooper who flew regular VASCAR flights. He stated that in those situations they only looked for "major" speeders. He came right out and said that "they have to be doing at least 80 before I'll radio them in".

Keeping in mind that the speed limits in the Chicago metro area are 55mph and it increases to 65 in the rural areas.

There was also an article in Car & Driver within the last year where they flew with an Ohio State Trooper and I think he said the same thing.

Not only that, but I also have it on the word of a local LEO, a fellow automotive enthusiast and active participant/member of our local Scooby enthusiast community (who also routinely performs traffic-enforcement duty for his township) that the practices reported in that Car & Driver article are pretty true-to-life.

When his township participates in such "Targeted Enforcement" efforts with the State Troopers (with or without aerial support), the targets are indeed aggressive drivers and "super-speeders."

If the prevailing pace of traffic happens to be 80 MPH, they won't even bother pulling anyone over - and what's more, if you're speeding along, 5+ relative to prevailing pace, in a relatively smooth and controlled manner (no tail-gating, signaling before lane-changes, etc.), under most situations, they also won't even bother you.

What gets you targeted is speeding excessively (huge differential), and, moreso, obviously aggressive driving maneuvers ("cutting," tailgating, etc.).

Honestly, most such enforcement, at least in Ohio, are well-publicized efforts. You'd have to be oblivious to local news, as well as blind as to the heavy enforcement (and slowed ambient pace), in order to run afoul of this type of "Targeted Enforcement" scenario.

Similarly, to blindly blitz along through strips of roadway where there are such timing-lines clearly marked is, again, to me, simply "speeding stupid." Like the C&D article said, if you can't bother to just slow down for that one mile stretch of roadway, then yes, you're gonna get busted.

Well dont believe that down here in Florida.

10 over which is fairly the minimum flow of traffic, they will bust your ass. They are not going to have nothing to show for wasting all that resource. When ever there is large speed traps, anything is fair game.

[RW'07]

It helps to travel at night.

But then, that opens you up to other speed enforcement practices. :?

From the initial article:

"... The aircraft will eventually be equipped with infrared technology and a high-tech video camera to allow police to operate the plane day and night..."